2008-06-07

蜕变


├  5月 20日

自從上了Shunyo 的靜心營 (3月1至2日), 這兩個多月來,差不多每天都有大解 , 身體開始蜕变 ,变得輕盈,跳舞時異常敏捷,無念而動,舞出情緒的浪湧......狂喜......想哭,跟舞蹈合而為一。 自從06年10 月開始上 Bhakta 和 Amana 的 ‘共依存’、‘呼吸’、‘愛—生命的向度’、‘自我的探詢’多個靜心營以來,心靈功課進步良多,對自己所下的功夫的收穫愈來愈多!不只這樣,發覺自己參與的團體也愈來愈成熟,團體裏的人变得有更多的愛,更少的誤解!茫茫人海,能夠最後找到一個跟自己有很深的聯繫,幫助自己,也幫助別人智慧成長的團體頗不容易呢!

白髮雖多,人生雖苦,仍見豐足!感謝一切,無言的感謝!

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2008-06-05

Businessman 1 of 14

Feb 29, 2008 Friday 11:47:52 am

Come on, don't say anything like 'there's nothing more fail than success' again.

This second richest man in the world is 'more success than success'.




WOW........amazing (read below)
There was a one hour interview on CNBC with Warren Buffet, the second richest man who has donated $31 billion to charity. Here are some very interesting aspects of his life:
1. He bought his first share at age 11 and he now regrets that he started too late! 2. He bought a small farm at age 14 with savings from delivering newspapers.
3. He still lives in the same small 3-bedroom house in mid-town Omaha, that he bought after he got married 50 years ago. He says that he has everything he needs in that house. His house does not have a wall or a fence.
4. He drives his own car everywhere and does not have a driver or security people around him.
5. He never travels by private jet, although he owns the world's largest private jet company.
6. His company, Berkshire Hathaway, owns 63 companies. He writes only one letter each year to the CEO's of these companies, giving them goals for the year. He never holds meetings or calls them on a regular basis. He has given his CEO's only two rules.
Rule number 1: do not lose any of your share holder's money.
Rule number 2: Do not forget rule number 1.
7. He does not socialize with the high society crowd. His past time after he gets home is to make himself some pop corn and watch Television.
8. Bill Gates, the world's richest man met him for the first time only 5 years ago. Bill Gates did not think he had anything in common with Warren Buffet. So he had scheduled his meeting only for half hour. But when Gates met him, the meeting lasted for ten hours and Bill Gates became a devotee of Warren Buffet.
9. Warren Buffet does not carry a cell phone, nor has a computer on his desk.
His advice to young people: "Stay away from credit cards and invest in yourself and Remember:
A. Money doesn't create man but it is the man who created money.
B. Live your life as simple as you are.
C. Don't do what others say, just listen to them, but do what you feel is good.
D. Don't go on brand names; just wear those things in which U feel comfortable.
E. Don't waste your money on unnecessary things; rather spend on those people who are really in need.
F. After all it's your life - then why give chance to others to rule your life."

Businessman 2 of 14

Feb 29, 2008 Friday 12:38:15 pm

Your intention is good !
But some others use these great models to dwarf others, even though they do it subconsciously and by doing so, they forget their own issues, their own life full of desires and pain.
And there is no need to pose a position. Great men do it their way, make great success, make immense mistakes...I do it my way, failure or success, big or small, who cares !? I admire the man who wrote "The sound of silence".
^_^ Tameer

Businessman 3 of 14

Feb 29, 2008 Friday 2:47:28 pm

Tk u for ur prompt reply.
If you know me well, you'll know my intention as well - to stop people from dwarfing themselves and make them face their own wants and desires instead of suppressing and avoiding them.
The Osho's saying 'there's nothing more fail than success' should never be an excuse! No one can do anything his/her own way if he/she doesn't even dare facing his/her own wants and desires.


Latinmaniac

Businessman 4 of 14

Mar 5, 2008 Wednesday 9:53:08 am

Hi Latinmaniac,

W. Buffet lives simple life and states simple facts, it's the simplicity that strikes, adds propaganda to his enormous wealth.
He smiles sweet. He is very very successful and rich, everyone knows that.
He gives good advice. Some of his followers give coaching according to his rules, I think.
Some who are eager to earn much money, take him as a great model, have followed the track to be a businessman, a financial planner, etc.

It's his sense of security and confidence that strikes me, not the amount of wealth that does so.
It's the mental quality that makes him so successful.

I never heard Osho say 'there's nothing more fail than success', by the way, in which book or discourse of him can we find this quote?..You might say,'You are a disciple of Osho, you should know that.' But I don't, sorry !
And the sentence doesn't sound like common sense, so it's a matter of interpretation with reference to personal experience...then a never-ending story unfolds...

Bhakta says it's the object-split in us that might push us into extremes of character. So, some love masters, others hate masters...they become antagonists, dual and duel, not non-dual. The mind for dual and duel, meditation for non-dual, non-duel.
Very interesting !

Everyone has his mask, and mask needs excuses, mind needs excuses. No need to mask above or below the mind, enlightened ones, above the mind, no mask, lunatic ones, below the mind, no mask.

I wish myself facing myself, more and more into myself !

Wish U more success than success !

:) Tameer

Businessman 5 of 14

Mar 5, 2008 Wednesday 1:17:32 pm

Hi Tameer,

Actually, the sentence ''there's nothing more fail than success' may not be the correct, exact wording. and is ‘没有比成功更失败' in Chinese. I heard this English version from Bhakta in 'growing in essence workshop', and I'm always too stupid to remember the exact wordings in English.
Yes, I always focus on qualities, and 'factors & consequences' as well. It's Mr Buffet's quality (factor) I appreciate, and his wealth (consequence) is the second thing.

But there's nothing to do with whether I love or hate the master(s); actually, right at this moment, I neither love nor hate any masters, including Osho - what I only care about is whether those masters can help or not.

I just use Mr Buffet's experience and Osho's quote to satirize those cowards who don't have any courage to face their own wants and desires and even find excuses to justify their cowardice.

And I totally have no idea whether I'm above, at or below my mind, though I never find excuses for myself regarding my essence, personality, behaviour, things done... Again, that's not what I care about.

What I only focus and care about is what I want and don't want, not even what I have and don't have.

Things I want and have, I'll treasure and preserve.

Things I want but don't have, I'll try my best to get.

Things I don't want but have, I'll put aside or even trash.

Things I don't want and don't have, I'll simply ignore.

Be practical, be realistic, be 'thick n black' (厚黑)... is now my way of living.

Wish you getting more n more into yourself as well!

Latinmaniac

p.s. 米當你系救世者! D新聞鮮血寫(寫寫寫寫寫寫...)!

Businessman 6 of 14

Mar 5, 2008 Wednesday 11:09:40 pm

Hi Latinmaniac,

You assert your position and orientation very clearly ! I can feel your male energy assertion in your writings.

In Bhakta and Amana's groups, I could feel my own emotions when you echoed my self-claimed saviour shadow jokingly. Somehow I could feel embarrassed and irritated - I know now I have always been too serious - but when I felt your jokes coming from your female side, then I could see you in a new light. You never meant to hurt anyone even when you openly satirized others' cowardice or pretentiousness !

I come, I see, I unlearn.

I would like to have your permission to post our exchanged emails onto my blog.

Would appreciate your care and acceptance !

And just admire your audacity !

^_^ Tameer

Businessman 7 of 14

Mar 6, 2008 Thursday 1:53 pm

Hi Tameer,

Posting our exchanged email onto your blog? Sure! Why not? I'm flattered!

Sure I never meant to hurt anyone... The fact is, I NEITHER EVER MEANT TO HURT ANYONE NOR EVER MEANT NOT TO HURT ANYONE!

WHAT I MEANT TO DO IS TO TELL THE TRUTH!

IF THE TRUTH HURTS, IT HURTS.

AND THE POINT IS - TRUTH ONLY HURTS THOSE COWARDS WHO DON'T EVEN DARE FACING THE TRUTH AND THEMSELVES, THEIR OWN WANTS AND DESIRES.

At least in the cases of 'love & hate', 'above, at or below mind', 'to hurt or not to hurt'... I don't have any 'object split'.

S will soon post my personal sharing of 'growing in essense workshop' on his website, and you will see more of my point of view regarding this, see how I satirize... no, see how I scold at those cowards.

Maybe I should say sorry to you for my too much kidding on your self-claiming to be a saviour. But you know what? Though I always kid on your self-claming to be a saviour, I do appreciate your honesty to yourselves and others for your own wants and desires - the desire to become a saviour. At least you never hide it from anyone include yourself.

One thing we both have to remember is - we've got to know what it takes to become what we wanna become, and then try our best to get what it takes to become what we wanna become.

What it take to become a saviour? You know it 10,000 times more than me! I think you've already got at least some of what it takes to become a saviour. Your next step should be trying your best to get all it takes to become a saviour.

Me? You know it well, I always wanna become a unordinary, successful person, a star, with strong charm & talent, popular among my students, fans, ladies... Sure I know what it takes very well, and now I've got to try my best to get all it takes to be successful.

Let's work hard together from now on!

Cheers


Latinmaniac

p.s. I'll probably go to the AUM meditation class on 15 Mar 08. Will you attend that class as well?

Businessman 8 of 14

Mar 7, 2008 Friday 11:40:17 pm

Hi Latinmaniac,

I smiled, perhaps in a silly awkward way, when you started the joke on me...

You sing more humorously than 關正傑 : 咪當你係救世者! D新聞鮮血寫...寫寫寫寫寫!))))))))))

(I know now I have always been too serious, like a German.)

Please don't feel or say sorry ! I enjoy the way you sing the joke !


...也許鮮血瀉瀉瀉瀉瀉瀉瀉 ))))))))))

...吿別革命...中南海的大人們也不提革命了!

Meditation is the last revolution ! 即使吿別革命...但不吿別靜心!

I'm going to join AUM med tomorrow, and probably join on Mar15, Sat.

Agree to what you say..make great efforts and win all and be successful...yeah

What is the taste of success? Must taste like French cheese and butter, grape wine, martini, or vodka.. like lazy man's zen

Tameer

Businessman 9 of 14

Mar 8, 2008 Saturday 8:16:54 pm

Hi Tameer,

Glad you like my humourous singing style!!!!

But as you said that you always smile in a silly, awkward way while I kid on you, and you are always been too serious like a German, I think I've got something to say about being a saviour, dispite you know about being saviour 10,000 times better than me.

There must be a million things a saviour should do in order to save the world, but I think there's one of those jobs, missions a saviour should do which everybody may ignore, but nobody dare deny.

That is - BRING JOY, LAUGHTER, HAPPINESS AND COLOUR TO THE WORLD!!!

HOW CAN A SERIOUS GERMAN WHO ALWAYS SMILE IN A SILLY, AWKWARD WAY BRING JOY, LAUGHTER, HAPPINESS AND COLOUR TO THE WORLD?!?!?!?!

I think you've ignored this, but I don't think you would ever dare disagree with it.

Being a saviour is not as burdensome as what you think!!!

From now on, don't you ever mind being a 'funny saviour'!!!

Instead of being like a German, be like a French, Italian, Spanish, Brazillian, Cuban, Argentine, Latin Americans, Africans... like me!!!

This is gonna be your first 'revolution'!!!

The taste of success? I can't tell. If I say, 'the taste of success is the taste of vodka', then you'll ask me, 'what's the taste of vodka?'; if I answer, 'the taste of vodka is strong', then you'll ask, 'what is a strong taste?'...

Never ending questions, never ending answers.

Anyone who wanna know the taste of success should taste it by him/herself.

And how can we define 'success'?

Be like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet... who owns billions of billions dollars? Be like Michael Jackson, Madonna... who charm everyone in the world by performing on stage? Be Tyra Banks, Kate Moss... who fully express the word 'beauty'? Be Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikonnen... who won champions by mastering a 1000 bhp machine?

Or be Mother Teresa, Osho... who dedicate their lifes to help all the people in the world?

Or simply get a stable job, build a family, have a child or two?

You can see, different people has different definition of 'success'.

But I can say that there's one thing in common in definition of 'success' - BEING FULLY SATISFIED!!!

???

What 'being fully satisfied' is all about?

First, let me show you my definition of 'greed', 'desire', 'actual wants'.

... No, before I distinguish this three terms, I want you to watch a TV ad of Star World Hotel Macau starring Tony Leung Chiu Wai. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYRAHM5cL5U

OK, let's go back to this 3 odd terms-

'Greed' is when a person doesn't know what he/she actually want, doesn't know what kind of things can fully satisfy him/herself, but yet feel unsatisfied, empty inside, so keep on grabbing things, whatever things, but still can never be satisfied, and then keep on grabbing things, and still unsatisfied......

'Desire' is when a person thinks that he/she knows what kind of things can fully satisfy him/herself, but actually don't, and try to grab those stuffs who he/she thinks can satisfy him/herself, but after successfully getting those stuffs, he/she still can't get satisfied, and then keep on grabbing those things, and still unsatisfied, and try again to satisfy him/herself by grabbing......

'Actual wants' is when a person truly knows what he/she wants, truly knows under the bottom of his/her heart what can keep him/herself satisified, and will be fully satisfied and stop grabbing other things after successfully getting those stuff that keeps him/her satisfied.

And can you see why I quote this TV ad? Can you see anything related?

In this ad, after Tony Leung entered the club house, he saw so many beautiful ladies who keep on seducing him and stop him from walking, but he never stopped until he saw the Star World Hotel. He said, 'there's only one place worth me stop - I choose Star World Hotel, Macau.'

Tony Leung's 'actual wants' is Star World Hotel, not those beautiful, sexy ladies. He never try to grab those ladies, though it's easy for him to do so, cos he knows what he wants very well. And after he reached the hotel, he stop walking, stop searching as he's fully satisfied by this hotel.

And there's another fact about this 3 terms - THOSE WHO HAVE MUCH 'GREED', 'DESIRE' ARE THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, BECAUSE THEY NEVER FOLLOW THEIR HEARTS, NEVER TAKE A LOOK ON THEIR HEARTS, NEVER CONTACT WITH THEIR HEARTS!!!

TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, SOME PEOPLE EVEN SUPPRESS THEIR 'GREED' AND 'DESIRE'... THEY WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S THEIR ACTUAL WANTS THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE!!!

I already know what's my 'Star World Hotel'. I don't need Osho to distinguish this 3 term for me, nor do I need him to tell me what's my actual wants.

Hey Tameer, have you figure out what's your 'Star World Hotel' yet? Is it exactly 'becoming a saviour'?

If no, wish you figure it out soon; If yes, wish you get it done soon.

And this is gonna be your second 'revolution'!!!

And 'meditation' should not be you 'final' 'revolution', but instead should be your 'weapon' used in 'revolution'.

Cheers,


Latinmaniac

Businessman 10 of 14

Mar 9, 2008 Sunday 2:17:21 am

Hi Latinmaniac,

You are clever. I cannot help asking where you have learnt all this. Would you tell me?

I said 'perhaps' before I said 'in a silly awkward way' so as to be soft, and to acknowledge your joke and the way you sing the joke, just for fun. So, I have said to you: Please don't feel or say sorry!

I used a pair of parentheses to bracket the sentence : I know now I have always been too serious, like a German. What's more, I used a different type of font, a smaller font, to mean that I don't struggle with my own seriousness, don't force it to change, accept the appearance, then let the energy beneath the appearance flow. I know now......I am not serious any longer as soon as the act of knowing happens to me. At least not very serious.

I don't want to satirize or scold those who are not serious, who appear very different from me. My energy is not to be used in this way.

I SEE YOU CAN BRING JOY, LAUGHTER, HAPPINESS AND COLOUR TO THE WORLD!!!

I can bring some writings to the world. I have already experienced my joy and sorrow and put them in words. My readers, if any, might have quite different interpretations for words from mine, and it's their freedom to like or dislike my writings.

Revolution is a romantic word for me. Meditation is romantic. Being a saviour is romantic too. The more burdensome the task, the more romantic, as shown in the Myth of Sisyphus. So, I associate them together.

But, even the Communist China does not mention revolution now, so the word is outdated. It is nostalgic to remember stuff like revolution, saviour. Nostalgia is romantic, a bit sick, though.

So, revolution, meditation, or being a saviour is not something to get done. It is a kind of romantic yearning from within, deep down in heart, from without, high up in soul ! There is no final destination. The path is the destination, although it seems absurd.

The Star World Hotel and Tony is great showmanship ! Why not get those girls first?...I'm just kidding !
Maybe Tony just pretended not to be attracted. Or if Tony owns that hotel, then he is not anxious to go after those girls. He is then rich enough to have as many girls as he likes. He has shown his pride and nobility not to be attracted.

'Funny Saviour' is a good subject-matter for writing.

Taste is subjective, cannot be told, but when one is really tasting, he is enjoying the moment. Taste is a door to enjoyment ! The more one is in the moment, the more he enjoys! That is meditation.

A castle is more appealing to me. If the Star World Hotel was a castle, I would have done the same as Tony, and would first have lessons in great showmanship before the ad movie.

Although sometimes I thought that I would enjoy hard-earned success after hard-fought battles for years, what would it taste if 'I', my total being, was not in that moment ? Then, it would seem to be more like a failure than a success, it would not justify the great endeavour.

I'm enjoying my writing and typing now, although it's almost 2am late into the night.

No need to be like anybody, may he be a great model. I'm centering into myself.

Material gains would come naturally after hard work. Modern man bothers too much.

I would hate myself if I had pretended to be a saviour.

The saviour felt great pain for he couldn't even save himself !

Sometimes I hate petty success and failure. That's my ego!

Real success consists in contentment, peace, love, egolessness.

Meditation is the weapon for fighting gracefully...yeah !

Cheers, even no Beers !

Tameer

Businessman 11 of 14

Mar 9, 2008 Sunday 3:58:29 pm

Hi Tameer,

It's getting more & more interesting in writing, sharing and exchanging ideas with u.

Hey, don't flatter me. I'm clever? Everything I said is not theory, knowledge... learnt from others; it's my true personal experience! Everyone in this world has the right and ability to have their own experiences and share it with others. That's nothing special.

You try to guess what Tony thinks in the tv ad, but, being straight forward, I dare say that it's your own projection on his thoughts and feelings.

You said that you're kidding while you guess why Tony doesn't grab the ladies first, and try to find out the reason. But why don't you kid another way and guess, 'In this ad, Tony is a gay and have no interest on women. There are so many hot guys waiting for him in Star World Hotel.'?

Another reason why Tony didn't stop for the ladies: 'Tony is a straight guy, but were too picky on women and have no interest on those ladies in the club house, and there are ladies with even far higher qualities waiting for him in Star World Hotel.'

One more: 'Tony is not quite a sexual, horny guy, but a gamble addict. He doesn't have much interest in hot guy, hot ladies, but only gambling. As there are so many casinos inside or around Star World Hotel, he never stop for the ladies, keep walking until he reached the hotel.'

I, with a little arrogance, dare guess that this 3 reasons I quote is even more likely to be true.

When you said, 'Maybe Tony just pretended not to be attracted. Or if Tony owns that hotel, then he is not anxious to go after those girls. He is then rich enough to have as many girls as he likes. He has shown his pride and nobility not to be attracted.' Are you really talking about what Tony thinks? Or is it your own PROJECTION of what YOU think?

But, no matter what, everything we guess on what Tony thinks is sheer bull shits!!!

You said that you like meditation, but do you agree that one of the main object of meditation is '作如是觀'?

What I only heard Tony said in this ad is, 'There's only one place worth me stop - I choose Star World Hotel, Macau.'

And, from this sentence, from everything I saw in this ad, I can only see that Tony never stop his pace for anything including the ladies, except Star World Hotel. Whatever reason, he only stop for the hotel - the hotel is his final object - no matter this hotel can give him hot guys, even hotter girls, gambling, pride, nobility...

If he stop for the hotel for the hot guys and/or even hotter girls, then those hot guys and/or even hotter girls is his 'actual wants'.

If he stop for the hotel for the pride and nobility you mentioned, then pride and nobility is his 'actual wants'.

If he stop for the hotel for the casinos and gambling, then gambling is his 'actual wants'.

And if he stop for the hotel just for the hotel itself, then the hotel is his 'actual wants',

That's all.

And, from your latest email, I dare guess that your 'actual wants' is not revolution, not meditation, not even being a saviour, but 'ROMANCE'!!!

But sure I know nothing about what you want, just like we don't know what Tony thinks in the TV ad. And there's no right or wrong, but it's your own responsibility to figure it out yourself anyway.

Never try to guess what other people think, or we'll hit the wall. Remember what Socrates said, 'I don't know nothing.'?

There only one thing I wanna tell you - THERE'S SOMEHOW CONFLICT BETWEEN BEING SERIOUS AND BEING ROMANTIC.

And don't get it wrong - success is not neccessary hard earned.

I think I should repeat - SUCCESS IS 'BEING FULLY SATISFIED'.

So in your case, as contentment, peace, love, egolessness, romance... and a castle can keep you fully satisfied, it's your definition of success, no matter it's hard earned or easy earned.

Anyway we don't dare deny that there are some people who enjoy the process of competitions and fully satisfied with material gain. I know some people even never retire from working after retiring age and take their work and career as entertainment.

Again, there no right or wrong for either way of life, no matter being a hard working bee or a playful butterfly. Nobody has the right to critizise, condemn, not even Osho.

Yes, maybe we shouldn't satirize and scold others too much - Osho has done too much of something like this.

What I still insist is - no matter what way of life we choose, we just enjoy the process, gain, and be responsible for any consequences caused.

And please make sure that contentment, peace, love, egolessness, romance... and a castle is not just your second choice - so many people in the religions, meditation camp pursue are losers in the material world, fail to get success, and then try to forget about those 'sour grape' by pursuing spiritual stuffs.

What I wanna say is those people who think like this will never have and transcendence in spiritual world.

That's why I quote Warren Buffet's example to you guys.

If ones 'actual wants' is not those material gain, one will feel nothing after reading his example.

But if one got a strong feeling after reading his story, then one should try to look more into him/herself.

Think about it.

Latinmaniac

Businessman 12 of 14

Mar 14, 2008 Friday 10:40:47 am

Hi Latinmaniac,

It's W. Buffet's cool strategic thinking and determined character that make him so successful !

The ad movie is so attractive, I see you are very determined at targeting your own 'actual wants'. Success is in you already, for your determination makes it crystallized in you. Success just appears to be something to get done. As above, so below.

>so many people in the religions,
meditation camp
are losers in the material world,
fail to get success,
and then try to forget about
those 'sour grape'
by pursuing spiritual stuffs...◎

I'm sympathetic and sometimes empathetic with them
... whether they read deep into W. Buffet is up to themselves

My mind said: Conflict doesn't matter -- I suddenly see my defense mechanism! We are all in conflicts, maybe you are an exception - I'm flattering you, ain't i? But, I could be both quite serious a scholar and romantic a poet -- I surprised myself.

We know only one-tenth of our unconscious, if people all know themselves, Sigmund Freud won't be so famous, his disciples like C. G. Jung and others won't be so famous, and, their descendants, for instance, NLP won't be so widespread.

Anyway, I take your note.

Personality is persona is mask is character armour is......
All people need it, not excluding great teachers, great models, or the so-called 'enlightened' ones. How can we know they meant what they said and they said what they meant. We are often lost in others' legends, myths, and the labyrinth of discourses and arguments.

By the way, I see the point why Osho scolds or criticizes politicians and 'religious' hypocrites - they don't mean what they say, they say what they don't mean!!

I am not in the shadow of great enlightened ones, our fathers, as I wish only light !

I projected onto others, if or when I attributed to others what I was thinking and feeling and did not admit it was I who was thinking and feeling. But, I was just amusing with the ad movie.

Scientifically speaking, all the possibilities you and I mentioned are not bullshit, they are hypothesis-testing, and under close investigation there is an answer as in Tony's case, if it was not showmanship, if there is any truth, as in a murder case, there must be murderer(s).

Projection, identification, and other psychological processes in the mind are busily moving. They are doers. Let them do their tasks.

'We' are the watchers, often fogged by mist of mysteries, and in moments of no mist, we have a glimpse of 'TRUTH' - maybe.
There is no 'us' but the energy of consciousness, essence, existence. This is non-duality. I'm intoxicated in 'TRUTH', non-duality, ain't I?

'GROOVE' or 'TRUTH' are only Brand names for Wines Of Life -- certainly, we have quite different taste from drunken sailors !

Cheers, even no beers ! I'm not an alcoholic for wines !

^_^ Tameer

Businessman 13 of 14

Mar 14, 2008 Friday 12:57:01 pm

Hi Tameer,

Sure I agree with you saying that 'W. Buffet's cool strategic thinking and determined character that make him so successful.'

But sure there's one more important thing - HE FULLY ENJOY THE PROCESS OF ACCUMULATING WEALTH AND FULLY SATISFIED BY THE SATISFACTION OF SUCCESS.

SUCCESS IS A JOURNEY, NOT A DESTINATION. Sure you've heard 'bout that.

Anyway, as I've told you another email about my prototype, though I kinda like eating 'buffet' (Warren Buffet), I'm not very into it, and I'd rather know (Beyonce Knowles) how to lope (Jennifer Lopez) between cool (L L Cool Jay) timber and lake (Justin Timberlake).

And if you don't feel the conflicts between seriousness and romance, then I think you've really got flexibility - you're flexible enough to switch between being serious and romantic.

If it's true, then congratulations!

I don't dare deny that there's something romantically serious, and seriously romantic as well. Maybe you're doing something like that sometimes.

Just like in my case, is there any conflict between discipline and groove, sexuality and stylishness? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Do you know how L L Cool Jay keep his beautiful, muscular body by jogging, boxing & weight training for hours a day?!?!

Osho satirized those politicians and religious hypocrites, I yell at those losers with thoughts of 'sour grape', and we're somehow doing the same thing.

Politician, religious hypocrites, and those losers with thoughts of 'sour grape' have one thing in common - they never say what they mean, never mean what they say, and always say what they don't mean.

And those who never say what they mean, never mean what they say, and always say what they don't mean are exactly COWARDS!

I agree with you about hypothesis-testing, but there should be as least projection as possible in it.

At least I've made 3 more assumptions assume that Tony's a gay, a picky extreme, and a gamble addict after you made only one.

Again,

'GROOVE' IS MY 'TRUTH', &

'TRUTH' IS YOUR 'GROOVE'.


Latinmaniac

Businessman 14 of 14

Mar 14, 2008 Friday 2:38:38pm

Hi Latinmaniac,

>At least I've made 3 more assumptions
that Tony's a gay, a picky extreme,
and a gamble addict
after you made only one. ◎

That's why I said you're so determined in targeting at your 'actual wants' since I sensed that you're crystal-clear about Tony's ad, a great showmanship. I wouldn't deny that I somehow 'projected' men's sexual hidden impulse, for men's, that's others', that's not mine, then that's exactly projection. And 'projected' your seemingly playboy part, and our pride, nobility, our self-control. But, I was aware and 'projection' vanished.
I honour you in all you say, all your possibilities!

> SUCCESS IS A JOURNEY, NOT A DESTINATION.
Sure you've heard 'bout that◎

Yeah...it's in my heart, my being.

Osho is much a metal person, so he comes to strike, awaken...or destroy
So, if you bear energy alike to strike...then GO AHEAD, that's your energy !

>Anyway, as I've told you another email about my prototype,
though I kinda like eating 'buffet' (Warren Buffet),
I'm not very into it,
and I'd rather know (Beyonce Knowles)
how to lope (Jennifer Lopez)
between cool (L L Cool Jay) timber
and lake (Justin Timberlake)◎

Again, your literary talents - I can't help quoting it.

L L Cool Jay has been working very hard ! Good ! I see you're working hard and fast, too! Any conflicts ? Just go, flow, and see !

Different things like conflicts can come together to nourish upward developments !

Eat conflict like cornflake !

Thank you for your saying on seriousness and romance.

Good luck !

:) Tameer
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Mar14, 2008, 11:45pm

Hi A & S,

More e-mail exchanges between Latinmaniac and me !

Thanks for your kind attention !

^_^ Tameer

2008-06-02

修道船 之 《合久必婚?》

2008-03-22, 18:40
修道船之《合久必婚?》原文:
奧修 (Osho) 反對婚姻和司法制度,他認為將愛和法律扯上關係是醜陋的,他也反對佔有、束縛和限制,因為靈魂的本質正是自由和意識。所以他反對控制、制約與戒律。

奧修不反對來自內在的誡律,他說覺知才是真正的紀律,覺知加上規範就是求道的基礎。我曾經是個十分傳統而保守的人,小學至中學時代我的道德標準極高,嚴以律己,也嚴以待人,弄得神憎鬼厭,處處不受歡迎。

未接觸奧修書籍以前,我一直認為自己將來一定要結婚生子,並把自創的武術傳授給兒女。如今回顧自己曾有這種自私的想法,真是非常自我,妄顧未來子女的自由和意願。

後來我贊同奧修的講法,並不是由於他是成道大師,也不是基於他是我的師父,而是我明白了婚姻背後的恐懼、佔有、操控與不安全感。這是恐懼而不是愛,你並不信任自己、情人和生命。

終於到了表妹結婚的日子,我要決定是否出席她的婚宴。地點位於黃埔花園海逸酒店。自從茹素以後,我都盡量避免出席飲宴場合。雜食者可能很難明白素食者的心情和苦衷,無法體會箇中的感受及尷尬。加上我是一個反對婚姻和繁文縟節的人,覺得這些繁複的儀式既無聊又無謂,惹我反感。

其實我和表妹的關係相當疏離,尤其是她移民外國多年。縱使她現已回歸祖國,我們卻形同陌生。可是我的姑姑 (即是她媽媽) 在我童年時待我很好,所以我最終決定出席她的婚宴。

我還是第一次光臨這間酒店,從這裡的落地玻璃可以一覽無敵大海景,讓人心曠神怡。這兒格調高尚、氣派不凡。當然啦,他們是有錢人家,只要是金錢可以解決的都不是問題。我不是第一次出席別人的婚宴,不過每次我都覺得很奇怪,戀愛是兩個人的事,為何結婚卻變成了兩個家族的事?一對戀人幸福與否是他們的事,何解要所有的親朋好友一起恭賀與祝福他們?特別是那些跟他們完全不相熟的人……難道他們二人覺得幸福還不夠嗎?還需要群眾的認可及支持麼?

人類把婚姻和婚禮無限美化,彷彿這是一個人終生最美麗、最美好、最快樂的日子,而新娘、新郎甚至感動/感觸落淚。在我看來,婚姻只是一種社會性的集體催眠罷了。當中一切的美麗都是表面的包裝和幻象。

慶幸這間酒店居然可以即時為我烹調一系列的素食菜色,不用提前一星期通知,真是出乎意料。這裡的素菜水準遠超過一般酒家,不論在心思、營養、健康和味道方面都比酒樓出色。高級酒店果然不同凡響。吃素罕見地不用遭人歧視,而且可以在飲宴裡吃得飽、吃得豐富、吃得自在,真的可喜可賀!

雖然我和表妹沒什麼交情,但畢竟相識多年,我當然衷心希望她婚後感情生活美滿啦!我知道有些奧修門徒選擇結婚,也有一些求道者勸告我不要執著於不結婚,應該抱持可結婚可不結婚的心態。我不明白那些奧修門徒是基於什麼理由而結婚,然而,可以選擇的話,我始終傾向不結婚。因為我覺得這個儀式和這張證書沒什麼意義,而且麻煩又花錢。真正的承諾和結合就在我和愛侶的心中,在我倆的愛中,不在任何的儀式或證明文件裡。

修道船


2008-03-24, 07:55
跟孩子們攬攬抱抱 , 無意中教些像摔跤或合氣道的功夫 , 叫他們不要失去先天力 , 也挺不錯呀 !
我已把你的 《走出奧修》一文擺了在我的網誌上 , 好嗎 ?
婚宴裏能夠吃到好的齋菜 , 真好福氣!
人生方醒路正長 , 好好享受婆娑世界 , 隨緣隨喜 !

談美
2008-03-26, 22:47
To 談美
求之不得啦!
談美師兄,你對婚姻有何看法呢?
有什麼值得結婚的好理由嗎?
結婚有何正面的意義及價值?
請賜教 !

修道船
2008-03-27, 02:24
多謝你的允許 !
你對婚姻的看法已夠深刻 , 很好!這是人生一等大事 , 千言萬語也説不盡 !渴望奇妙愛情和美滿良緣 , 是人心底普遍的期盼 , 尤以青春烈火燃燒歲月為甚 !而幸福跟靈性成熟程度成正比 , 卻跟婚姻的朿縛成反比 ; 自以為成熟的人在婚姻的 "風險" 中往往輸得最慘!婚姻是個堡壘 , 防了外面的情賊 , 卻防不了心賊 !人生總有失敗 , 若婚姻失敗 , 定有難言之苦 , 其苦或許可以使人的靈魂再生 , 依苦主的慧根悟性而定 , 痛定思痛 , 未來還有很多美好的日子 , 不宜太悲觀沮喪 ; 千萬不可把婚姻看作 "投資" , 因 "一己" 的 "我執" 一定受不了 "投資" 失利!最不妙的婚姻是為結婚而結婚 , 或者為受不了無形的壓力和莫名的寂寞而結婚 ! 最好的婚姻是倆口子良性共依存 , 也是靈魂的共同成長!但活到這境地 , 則結不結婚並不重要 , 可惜明白人生是生命之流的人很少很少....... 人活着 , 總要覺醒覺知為妙為盼 !.....
.........至道無難 , 唯嫌揀擇 (信心銘)!
彷彿意有未盡 , 卻無話可説.........

談美
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2008-05-18

For Truth

May 18, 2008

sj

From the Olympics games, one can see it is Greek philosophy that man's body must attain a perfect state to match the perfect soul. This Greek philosophy has been incorporated into a special kind of Christian theology. But, who experience the immortality of the body? What is the meaning of a body living forever and forever? What to do with so much time?

If I can live 300 Earth years, then I will possibly know the mystery of life and Existence. That is enough, and thank God very much.



A : Are you a Christian?

A' : I was.

A : If God sits beside you, what do you think?

A' : I am not separate from him. I am at peace with him.
◎┤

God has granted us everything perfect, if there is God.

All that Christian stuff is no longer my cup of tea.
(I do not exclude the possibility of studying it for fun some day. God knows?)

:) t


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May 18, 2008

I feel the information is for truth not for Christian. I agree with your comment totally.

sj




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The article which we have discussed above is as follows(in Chinese)
以下就是我們上面所討論的文章

第二十四章 末日的審判
  光陰荏苒又到年底,我們注意到很多人來到這裡,是為一特
別集會,參加眾人都是大師。每一天我們都結交新朋友,每個人
都說英語,我們與村民打成一片。有一天聽說集會將在除夕夜舉
行,我們也在邀請之列。他們還告訴我們說,此集會不邀請外人
參加,但是,不是秘密集會,議程是公開的。與會眾人皆熱心公
益,服務社會,靈性高且了悟生命之意義。這種聚會某些人謂之
「逾越節期」,每年皆有多次,議程選定時間和地點。
172
  集會當日早晨天氣晴朗,溫度零下,我們都想到這次聚會能
增添不少閱歷。晚上八點到達集會場所,有兩百位人士參加。房
子裡燈火輝煌,跟那天晚上所提過的景況一般,華麗壯觀,據說
主持儀式者是曾經招待過我們的那位美麗的女主持人。我們入座
後不久,她就進得屋來,我們皆驚異於她的青春貌美。她穿一襲
亮麗白色長袍,卻沒有半點炫露之意。
  她安靜地走上小小的講台並且開始演講:「今晚我們來到這
裡都想完全了解從低意識進入高意識的意義。我們竭誠歡迎為此
準備好的人,你們跟隨我們之初,是因看到我等的成就引發自身
的興趣,開始你們認為奇妙非凡,視之如奇蹟;如今我知你們學
會視此事物乃尋常事,也是上帝要我們永遠如此地生活著,現在
你們知道我們沒有做過任何奇蹟感到滿意,你們了解你們正在做
的事功其靈性的意義;意識在心靈層次工作 ,詮釋出所有外相
的內在所包含的理念;那麼就顯露內在的意義,沒有其它奧
秘,不是奇事,亦不是奇蹟。
173
  從「低意識到高意識」其意思是移走物質上的不諧和與
不調;接納基督意識(本性/佛性),在基督意識裡,一切皆
是美麗、諧和並完美的。這才是生活的常道,神看人的生活方
式,是耶穌在世上所活出的樣式。其它的是不自然的、自我的、
困難的道路。我們明白這點,就能自然地活出基督的樣式,極其
容易;那我們就進入基督意識(明了本性)。
  我們這裡擺了很多桌子,只是偶而做筵席用,這不是一般人
心裏所以為的筵席;而是「了悟」與「成就」的宴席,象徵著從
毀滅到基督意識。今日的世界大大地誤解其真意,相信有一天所
有的神子都會坐在這種筵席前,而且能夠真正了解其真意。
  今晚,在我們當中有少數人,他們的身體是如此的完美,他
們可以帶著肉身到達靈界去領受最高的教導,他們在這裡會以肉
身顯像數日,然後帶著肉身飛到那常人所不能見的意識王國。
174
  我們要提昇我們的意識到基督意識才能與之交談,而他們因
有完美之軀,他們可以攜到靈界國度並照其意願回到我們當中或
離開我們;他們能來教導願意接受他們指導的人並照其意願消失
或出現。我們準備妥當之時,他們就會來指導我們,有時候是直
覺地感受,少數經由親身教誨。今晚我們中間有五人要剝餅,其
中一位是我們最敬愛的,也是我們一位同仁的母親——(稍後知
道是艾末爾的母親)現在我們就位。」
  燈光暗了一下,全體低頭安靜傾刻,然後燈光重新亮起,有
五個人三男二女站在房中,全都身著白衣,散發著美麗的光芒。
他們安靜走向前,在每張桌子首席位上坐下,艾末爾的母親坐在
我們這桌的首位,艾末爾居左側,我們的隊長居右側。五位坐定
之後即上菜,菜肴簡單:蔬菜、麵包、水果和乾果,但花樣繁
多。席間談話主要是針對參加此間會議人士的指示,他們用母語
交談,亞斯特翻譯,我不打算記下談話內容,因為大部分已經提
到過。
175
  最後由艾末爾的母親演講,她用完美的英語,發音清晰且准
確。以下是她的話:「只有有限觀念的人對我們每天用的能量嗤
之以鼻,但我們有幸看見並用之,人們只要有完善的思想(用本
性)就知道這些力量就在我們生活當中垂手可得,可用之做任何
事情。一旦這種力量為人類利用或控制,他們會變得更真實,現
在因為他們感官有限,所以他們執著於看到的,感覺到的,觸摸
到的假像。你們注意到在這個房間內所享受到的;諸如燈光、熱
量、甚至於你們吃的食物,皆由此能量之一所準備的,你們可以
稱之為燈光或者你們想怎麼稱呼都可以。我們視之為偉大的宇宙
能,人們能夠用它,則較蒸氣、電或石油更具效率,這只是能量
的一種。
  這種能量不只是完全供應人類所需要的能,也能隨時隨地供
應人所需的熱,不需消耗一磅的任何種燃料。這種能量完全無
聲,如果人接觸到並且用到它時,可以停止現在似乎不可避免的
嘈雜與混亂。
176
  這些力量是現成的,就在你們的周圍,等著人們接觸它、用
它,比蒸氣或電簡單得多。當人類可以用它之時,他會明白所有
現在所設計的動力模式或機器,只是人們其有限的觀念所製造出
來的代用品。他們以為他們自己發明了這些,他們發明這些是緣
於他們物質的感官。他們的發明不完美,而人們如果明白一切都
來自上帝,是上帝經由他顯現的,他們所製造的也會完全了。人
的自由意志,選擇了難行的路,不了解神子的關係,可以用到神
所有的一切。他們會繼續走到盡頭,才會明白一定有某種方法,
簡單的方法,至終他們會明白神的道路是唯一之路,那麼他會表
現完美,就像現在神看人表現一樣。
  你不明白你必需進入你內在的父那裡,勾劃出從他而來所有
好的地方。是不是你的本性的每一個力量都由神聖的自我來操作
的?所有的顯現在開始就是內在的父神;除此之外沒有它法能表
現或生成。」
177
  同僚之一問及我們生活上的思想和語言是用什麼能量?她舉
起一隻手,立刻有一小物件出現在她的手上,她說:「我把這一
粒豆子丟到碗中的水裡,你看到由於這粒豆子引起的水波,從中
央傳到碗邊。碗的外緣看起來沒有水波或是說水波停了。其實並
非如此,當波動到達碗的邊緣時,又開始回轉到豆子剛入水的地
方,水波不會停留,立刻轉回中央,這正是代表我們每一個思
想或語言。每一個思想或語言產生振波,波動外傳,擴散直
到宇宙的邊緣,然後再回來,回到所散發出去的人身上。我
們所說的每一個思想或語言,不論好的或壞的,它怎麼出去
就怎麼回來,回轉到的時候就是聖經所說的《審判的日
子》,每一天都是審判的日子。判決是好或是壞,正如同散發出
去的思想或語言是好是壞;每一個觀念(思想或語言)變成一粒
種子,這粒觀念的種子撒出去,種在靈魂裡,存放在心靈上,以
後成為觀念,或成為物質形像。完美的思想或語言產生完美;不
完美的思想或語言產生不完美。
178
  太陽和地球的組合在兩廂情願下就能製造生產新事物。如果
種下種子,就出現巨大的菩提樹或最小的花,靈魂和精神就是如
此回應人的呼求。他用思想或語言去求,他就得到。唯一將人從
天堂分離開來的是人們對天堂那霧般的錯誤的物質觀念,於是對
一切神聖的東西都會覺得神秘了。建立各個不同宗教組織的人知
道以神秘環繞在屬於神的東西上,能夠更容易捉住人心,但是現
在人們發現生活中真實的、簡單的東西才是神的;如果不是,那
麼又有什麼用呢?每個人都知道教會是象徵人裡面的基督意識,
神是人類的中心,他們明白理念,代替了一般觀念所建立的拜偶
像。看看散布各處的異端組織,雖然現在呈現分裂狀態,但是必
會由一個真正的教會帶領,由此教會引領所有的教會到達真正的
了悟。
179
  我們的肉身已達完美,可以自由出入,亦可見並能前往所謂
靈界的國度,很多人知道的第七重天;這個國度被認為是神秘中
的神秘。人們對它有他們的想法,但是這個想法是不對的,沒有
奧秘,我們只是到了意識裡一個地方,在這裡我們得到更高的教
導。今天耶穌就在這裡,在意識裡的這個地方,我們脫去會毀滅
的,穿上永恆的;我們知道那裡的人是永恆的、無罪的、不死
的、不變的、永遠的;正如同神,如同神看人一樣。在這個地方
我們知道「變形」的真正意義,我們可以與神交通,面對面地看
到他;這個地方我們知道每個人都可以來,都會受接待,而且住
在那裡;我們知道,不久之後,每個人的意識都將提升到這個境
界,我們可以看得到他們,與他們說話;我們意識提升,高於一
般人,使得在一般人的意識裡,看不到我們。
  我們要注意三件事情:一件以前已經發生過,一件是做為你
們的典範,就是在人裡面誕生了基督意識(佛性),聖嬰耶穌的
誕生。另一件我們很快可以看到的;當你們的國家接受了並了解
基督意識,那麼我們就樂於朝向第三個,最後的,最偉大神奇的
——基督第二次也是最後一次降臨。當每個人接受裡面的基督,
並且住在意識裡,並在此展現出來,如同百合花般地生長,這就
是一。(眾生皆有佛性)」
180
  當她說完,隱形的樂隊在吟唱,這個房間第一次充滿音樂,
以嚴肅的輓歌結束,然後靜默片刻,樂隊再唱出愉悅的歌聲,每
一節結束時都有鐘聲,直到鐘響十二下,我們突然察覺到十二點
了,新年開始。
  如此結束我們與這些奇妙的人們的第一年。
181
後記
  在公開我與大師們的經驗時,希望強調我個人相信大師們的
力量,以及他們所展示的一偉大的法則,此法則對整個人類來說
具更深的意義;他們証明有一高過死亡的律法,現在全人類朝向
這個方向努力,去了解它用它。上師們說這個律法要帶到美國,
給予全世界,讓大家都知道長生不死的方法,他們宣稱這是一新
紀元的開展。
  在本書內所提到的每個事件不是一般降靈會所表演的東西,
差的太遠了,這是更高層次的表現,其肉身能夠照意願化而成
氣,聚而成形,這個肉身是榮耀的精神體。這是神的律法,而
人類很快地將要承繼並開啟之,使人類了解去用這個身體。
182
  毫無疑問地,經過長久以來,這些人們閃耀著光,他們証明
不論在日常生活當中或工作中,這個光永遠存在,一如幾千年前
一樣。

給 J 的信


Apr 22, 2008

j

昨天我把自己的一隻貓兒拿到 "愛護動物協會"看醫生 , 做了手術 , 奔波了一日 , 晚上很晚才看到你 Face Book 的消息 , 覆了你 , 其實香港跟台灣距離不遠 , 只要念著你常在附近 , 便很高興 ......

我的貓兒前天午夜追逐牠的貓妹妹時推翻擺在高處的大畫架 , 玻璃碎了 , 把牠一隻後腿的腱割斷了......

假如你仍在港 , 希望可以見見面 , 傾談一下 , 我的手電 是 .. 保持聯絡 ...... 祝一切安穩 !

:) t

2008-05-14

Groove 1 of 5


March 13, 2008 Thursday 1:11:20 pm

Truth? Spirituality?

No, thanks. I like 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY'!!!



Hi Tameer,

Jazz, Soul, R&B, Bossanova, Latin... used to be my most favourite genres of music, as I've told you guys before.

One of the reasons why I like those music is the elements inside - 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY', 'SPONTANEITY'. 'STYLISHNESS'...

Not 'transcendant', but yet 'PRIMITIVE'.

Here comes the stylish, gorgeous Justin Timberlake, former member of the boy group 'N Sync', with his latest album

'Futuresex/Lovesounds'. As a blue-eye soul singer, he brings out strong soul/r&b feeling while performing all the tunes of this album.

This is the first part, track# 1-5.

Links of his MTVs:

Futuresex/Lovesound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-1JX_ik7jU

Sexyback:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAT5ypTjKOI&feature=related

My Love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhgpf7t97tk

What goes around comes around:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXm3Qg7sBo

Until the end of time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJCThGQKPWY&feature=user

Again, I don't care about so called

'TRUTH', 'ENLIGHTENMENT',
'SPIRITUALITY'...
I only like 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY',
'STYLISHNESS', 'GORGEOUSNESS'...
IT'S MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No matter what:

If you like it, enjoy.

If you can't even stand it, simply ignore.

IT'S YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!


Latinmaniac

Groove 2 of 5


March 14, 2008 Friday 9:18:14 am

Truth? Spirituality?

No, thanks. I like 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY'!!!



Hi Latinmaniac,

Good, let live life fully for groove, sexuality, spontaneity, stylishness, maybe more...

Thanks for all your You-Tube forwarding groovy music ! Good to hear 'Just in timber and lake, woods and water '..so cool touches in woods and lake !

We've written long letters. For a few days, something about you and your letters came to my mind, even when I was listening to others' speaking. I could have responded at once, but I wanted to make clear what the point was. Your music forwarding gave the answer : we were leading different kinds of lifestyle, weren't we?

You came again at the end of your last letter to show W. Buffet's way. Well, then, I would say something beginning with him in my next letter.

The mind likes to label stuff as such, but what is inside might not be what we have thought. 'GROOVE' OR 'TRUTH', JUST BRAND NAMES FOR WINES OF LIFE !! Taste is subjective, as cannot be told !

^_^ Tameer

Groove 3 of 5


March 14, 2008 Friday 11:29:40 am

Truth? Spirituality?

No, thanks. I like 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY'!!!


Hi Tameer,

Glad you like the groovy, sexual but yet stylish tunes and MTVs!

'Just in timber & lake'... You've really got literate talent! Don't you ever waste it!

How about other artists? L L Cool Jay with beautiful, muscular body? J Lo (Jennifer Lopez), Keri Hilson, Nicole Schezinger (former Pussy Cat Doll member), & Beyonce Knowles with hot, sexy look and body figure? Timbaland with strong hip hop music talent?

Within those artists, Timbaland and Beyonce Knowles are also featured in Justin's album which I've forwarded to you guys.

Actually I don't know exactly what your lifestyle is - I just show mine through sharing those musics and MTV's.

Yes, I think you can somehow associate those music and MTVs with me - the way I talk, the way I behave, the way I look, the way I dress, the way I dance... you can feel the similiar energy from me and those groovy, sexual but yet stylish stuffs.

Anyway, we won't dare deny that we have one thing in common in our life - find out what is our 'actual wants', and then try to get our 'actual wants', no matter what the 'actual wants' are.

You wanna talk on about W. Buffet? That's ok. But what I wanna tell you is - I've nothing more else to say about him.

Actually he's not exactly my prototype - sure you know I'd rather those artists in those musics and MTVs to be my prototype than Mr Buffet.

Just wanna say that being rich and successful is not as terrible what you guys think, and remind you guys to make sure that wealth and success is not your 'sour grape'.

Among all the words from you, I agree most with what you said about 'label', 'brand name', 'truth', 'groove'...

Yes,

'GROOVE' IS MY 'TRUTH'!!!

'TRUTH' IS YOUR 'GROOVE'!!!

'SEXUALITY' IS MY 'SPIRITUALITY'!!!

'SPIRITUALITY' IS YOUR 'SEXUALITY'!!!

&

'STYLISHNESS' IS MY 'LOVINGNESS'!!!

'LOVINGNESS' IS YOUR 'STYLISHNESS'!!!

&

.........

Latinmaniac

p.s. More groove coming in your way, stay tune to 'Latinmaniac Music Channel'.

Groove 4 of 5


March 14, 2008 Friday 1:27:00 pm

Truth? Spirituality?

No, thanks. I like 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY'!!!


Hi Latinmaniac,

On reading your e-mail, I become more and more smiling, just being happy to see you manifest yourself in words !

I'm not much in those stars you mentioned: L L Cool Jay with beautiful, muscular body? J Lo (Jennifer Lopez), Keri Hilson, Nicole Schezinger (former Pussy Cat Doll member), & Beyonce Knowles with hot, sexy look and body figure? Timbaland with strong hip hop music talent?

Well, for me, just remember : More groove coming in my way, stay tune to 'Latinmaniac Music Channel'.

See how you extrapolate 'GROOVE' IS MY 'TRUTH'!!! 'TRUTH' IS YOUR 'GROOVE'!!!......&.......

See you've got literary talents, too, even with more talents to express yourself in words, to give speeches in daily life !

Hope much music come up more and more touching !

:) Tameer

p.s. I'll forward this to A and S

----------------------------

Hi A & S,

Hope you would enjoy our exchanged e-mails !

Thank you for your kind attention !

:) Tameer

Groove 5 of 5


March 14, 2008 Friday 2:04 pm

Truth? Spirituality?

No, thanks. I like 'GROOVE', 'SEXUALITY'!!!


Hi Tameer,

Yes, as I've mentioned before, my all time favourite Janet Jackson, the younger sister of the King Of Pop Michael Jackson, is coming in your way.

I like Janet even more than Michael.

And her tunes and MTV's are no less groovy, sexual and stylish than those I've just sent you guys. Please wait and see.

And, PLEASE, forward our email conversation to A and S, so that they can know why I do meditations far less frequent than many of you guys, and why I need it far less than many others meditators.

No matter what, see u 17.30 15 Mar 08 AUM, an invitation from S for rewarding my work of writing an article of sharing.

If you'll come, of course.

Latinmaniac

2008-03-22

修道船《走出奧修》

2007-08-03, 13:32:45

談美 : 最可貴的是那感悟生命底深不可測的神秘感 , 對混亂與不安定保持觀照 ,因此 , 生活的每一刻都是活然流動的 -- 飛鷹本來就在天空裏 -- 全然的自由 , 拔乎於流俗之上的癒合與神聖 ! 祝福 !


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2007-08-11, 14:34:45
希夷少年: 框框已破 , 好 ! 如如不動 , 好 ! 當下自然反應 , 好 ! --- 攝心 , 凝神 , 無念 , 無執 , 上乘武功之門方入 !

2007-08-13, 21:01:28
修道船: 希夷少年,你的名字和留言內容都好有趣,我認識你嗎?可以告訴我你是何方神聖嗎?

2007-08-14, 17:12:04
希夷少年: 少年心地最純 , 渾沌迷茫 , 茫茫然踏上與命運盲約的奇妙旅程 , 多好玩呢 ! (中國人喜古崇古託古 , 我也來一個把戲 , 把武功心法 歸給 宗師 希夷 先生 -- 好玩呢 ! -- 呀 , 若擔上欺師滅祖的罪名 , 可不是好玩的喲 !)

新的視野代表新的朋友 , 或友朋的新 ...去過三次印度 , 找尋 逝去的 '東方 ', 卻尋回自己的宿命 ... 武學是自己心靈功課中的一個課題 ...大隱隱於市 , 自息自存 ,並非何方神聖 ...道以誠而入 , 以默而守 ...旅程即是終點


2007-08-14,
20:21:28
修道船: 那麼,你是學什麼武術的?
太極?意拳?截拳道?還是自創武術?


2007-08-15,
13:48:12
希夷少年 : 學過一點太極 , 陳式但非老架 , 較似楊式的開濶舒展 , 不似吳式 ...現在所練的一種道家拳名為六合八法 , 這門拳法被傳為太極 , 形意 , 八卦之揉合 , 但這說法不對 , 應有高人出面 , 振臂高呼 , 以正視聽 ! 在這裏所說的只對事 ,不對人 , 故諱師尊之名 , 請諒 !


自創武術 , 功力非凡 自不待言 , 更重要的是推倒流俗的不羈 與佻脫 , 如李小龍先生之創截拳道 , 王薌齋先生 之創意拳 , 一士諤諤 , 敢為天下先 , 此關性情 , 非關學養 ...若無不世出之天才 , 特殊的風雲際會 , 誰敢輕言自創門派 , 千萬戒慎 ! 我只不過是人生的學生 , 真理的追尋者



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2007-07-30
21:54

修道船《 走出奧修》 原文 :

最近某友人指稱我被奧修框住,令我有所感觸,勾起了昔日種種修行的片段,藉此回顧一下幾段難忘的往事。

我是一個幸運的人……不,世間沒有運氣這回事,只有意願和能量的自由創造,即是你創造自己的實相,藉由思、言、行,透過顯意識、潛意識、無意識、超意識以及個人與集體的共同創造。

我說自己幸運,是指我的靈魂早已替我安排好我的人生挑戰和願景,所以我自幼已經深明自由的重要性,一直拒絕加入什麼團體、組織,不想個人自由受到限制或束縛。換句話說,我不想被任何東西框住。慶幸我在武術方面能夠突破框框,開創出屬於自己的武術──適合自己的個人風格──沒有落入傳統武術的桎梏和枷鎖。

另一方面,雖然我曾經讀過設計,卻沒有跟隨傳統美學的角度判斷美醜,因為我不認為自己需要認同別人的價值觀,別人的審美觀念就只是別人的標準,我不服從外在的權威。

即便如此,我還是在不知不覺中受到家人和社會的制約,只是「中毒」的程度較淺而已。從小到大,我一向被人標籤為另類、怪胎、自閉、低能、獨行俠、妄想症、神經病等等。從古至今,超正常 (高於正常) 的人往往會遭受到嚴重的歧視、誤解及扭曲。無奈我也感染到大眾的負向思維和負面情緒的壞習慣。

靈修初期,我致力於發洩和釋放累積已久的負面情緒,以及被抑制的正向情感。接下來的階段,我著重培養和建立正面的思想及情感,盡量遠離與忽視負面的思維模式。

稍後,我利用觀照和覺知來擺脫根深柢固的習性,逐漸脫掉制約和認同。同時,我試著把毒素轉化為蜂蜜,並從負面中看到正面的訊息和意義,看出完美 (完整:完美中的不完美,不完美中的完美)。

後來我參加了十天內觀禪的密集禪修訓練,繼而突破正負兩極的二元對立,學習既不抓住快樂,也不排拒痛苦的平等心 (無分別心)。然而,唯有當我們不貪愛、不執著愉悅,也不抗拒和逃避痛苦、恐懼時,才能保持超然的狀態。它就是我們如如不動的本性──無選擇的覺知。一旦心存是非好惡,我們便會再度陷入習性之中:這是對的、這個很好,我要抓住更多;那是錯的、那個不好,我要拼命壓抑和否認它的存在。如此一來,我們又回到頭腦持續分裂、衝突的二元對立與掙扎中,不住被思想損耗掉自己的能量。

閱讀方面,求道早期,我經常執取奧修話語裡的某個觀點,當作至高無上的真理。及後我明白到奧修看事情的角度非常廣闊,他甚至可以從十個以上的立場看待同一件事呢!此舉讓我大開眼界之餘,也使我了解到,保持敞開和彈性的心才是修行的重點所在。

為了不依賴和執著奧修 (執著於奧修意味著執著自由、解脫和成道,這是最終的執著),我開始接觸其他心靈書籍:禪修、藏密、佛學、克里希那穆提、新時代 (與神對話系列、塞斯書、許添盛醫師、歐林系列等等) ……我發現不同的大師、高靈、體系之間的學說和主張有著許多相似之處,但某些地方卻截然不同,非常不一致。這些差異令我感到混亂和不確定,保持不知道,並有一種不可知的神秘感。

存在充滿了奧秘,你永遠不能單靠知識或別人的經驗而開悟。眼看不少學者、專家或知識份子過度被知識綑綁和囚禁,活在自製的牢籠裡,我不願步他們的後塵。人好固執,經過千辛萬苦,終於放下舊的執著,轉眼間又拾起新的包袱。因此,我只好不斷通過閱讀和靜心脫掉種種制約、局限,重建新信念和認知,對我來說,那就是最好的破執方法了。

任何外在的知識和權威都不可取代個人內在的直覺和智慧。別人的經驗只可作為一種參考指標。世界瞬息萬變,根本沒有金科玉律或一成不變的價值標準。也許,凡事隨遇而安,適時隨機應變,每一刻自發性地反應──在當下自然反應──直接洞察世情,才是最自由、最清明的行動。或許這就是最佳的處世之道吧 !
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2008-03-06

no thing

4 of 4
aug4, 2007
> >what is a feeling, especially one which is hidden,
unable to come to the fore of consciousness?...


hidden or revealed feeling is not the real thing we both know on investigation that it all leads back to a thought...which is not the real


> .. it's heard that man is a useless passion,
isn't it?..


..compassion i dont know much.



>> i'll will magically my part of the secret house to the two cats,
sacred or scared,
if they live longer than me,
or to my cat-like girl-friend.


he he i like your keen sense of humor



> > what does sailor bob eat?


..his body eats food like us all ha ha. i notice him and his wife stick to the health realm..


> > i'm going to re-learn,
and re-learn.





there is no I.....no one to learn.. learning may happen or not...its all the same.... i sound like i am speaking in that foreign language - all part of the act ..




g wrote that line i sent for translation...see what flys
m

P again

3 of 4
aug4, 2007
> money burnt and unlimited time spent in frolic and roaming..




no its all an illusion..its only my concept and imagination its probably the opposite. illusion again. and then i think that about you. you and her concepts about me may be the same! we are all in the same boat...
so can you translate this ...its begun


Where ever you appear to go......it is always NOW and HERE........you drag the whole universe in your wake.........
m

hi m manderine

2 0f 4
aug4, 2007
hi m manderine,
i admitted, get heated, up to the meetup..
the Queen of Spa or Spain, so wealthy as to live without any burden, even a guilt is vague without any pain..she must be young, money burnt and unlimited time spent in frolic and roaming..admirable..
i have been out of job for a long time -- tutoring for a friend's son doesn't count.. oh, the age of economic growth with joblessness is stealthily creeping in.. some day, small gigantic futuristic quantum computers might replace workers of any level...except for your humour and jokes....some day, a machine might be able to feel.. but what is a feeling, especially one which is hidden, unable to come to the fore of consciousness?... it's heard that man is a useless passion, isn't it?..
i'll will magically my part of the secret house to the two cats, sacred or scared, if they live longer than me, or to my cat-like girl-friend if she doesn't get married to an indian black or red.. ah, the electronic toy -- like a baby so fragile am i carrying now in the hot sun -- with my mother's consent if she lives long enough, the baby to go under the custody of HAL, not IBM....
i imagine the old great man shouting from the rooftops of the old old great nisargadatta..
i think of sailor popeye eating spinach.. what does sailor bob eat? .. does it do any good to the no-mind brain, where everything is epitomized into an everlasting NOW?
am i learning anything? yeah, i've learnt a great deal, but, who knows, all becomes obsolete in five years..still out of job then...but it doesn't matter, i'm going to re-learn, and re-learn...
t

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1 of 4
aug3, 2007
>your discussion would be more heated
if i had come to the party?

hey, have you been reading my thread..ha ha yes it was heated and i so enjoyed the play! Forgive me no one in particular as i wanted to leave that group regardless. (etolle meetup group in aust)
but if you are admitting you have that heated quality then i cant let you go.




>if p wants to do the translation, it's fine, let her do it

p Queen of the Spa, doesnt know what she wants..whether to be in usa or here, near her parents or away, work she likes or work she doesnt, guilt she puts on for leaving jobs so often, or guilt just in general, not even no what guilt to have let alone translate a great mans work..




>if she needs the laptop as a tool for translation, i'll return it to you or get it handed to her?

you mean to say that laptop actually translates! my god then you are both out of a job. but dont ever return the lap top as i just sold my in australia and i never want one of those things again....like having a baby carrying it around , declaring it everytime i pass thru somebodies customs...changing and charging its batter. not to mention the data part...no sir ee, you aint handing it to anyone, its yours now. regardless if you translate some ol mans transcription....do with it what you will (not that you have one, a will that is and i am not talking about a legal binding will when you die in ? yrs....who are you leaving your secret house to by the way?! and do not leave me that lap top in your will. p probably owns half of hong kong including franchise in the lap top shops ....and what was i saying oh yes...do whatever you like with your new toy....translate the old mans words or die...doesnt matter to me.. and i am sure bob doesnt mind, on the other hand he would be wrapped as he once told me he would shout from the rooftops to get the message through which is to take you beyond the need of help

ps g only realised what all this shouting from the rooftops was about when he first started transcribing bob's tapes....amazing what you can learn along the way isnt it...
love m manderine!

UG is gone


yeah..in the form we think we know..indeed ! and you're non dual and passionate too !
t
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>UG Krishnamurti passed away on March 22, 2007
yeah sailor bob announced that way back at one of his meetings.. always a loss of planetary vibrations in the form we think we know..
i have a new teacher on the side he is non dual and passionate about it
m

2008-03-04

夏飛馳之歌


自從 快樂 聽到你的名字
他便走遍大街小巷找尋你


甚至在上星期曽經幾次親自走到我的門前 ─
來取你的地址 , 問我

有一次我説 :
啊 !我以為你甚麼都知道 ,
卻還要問我你的情人住在那裡喔 ? 」

摯愛的回答道 :
「無錯 , 夏飛馳 , 我甚麼都知道 ─

但久不久來個扮懵 , 尋尋開心 , 又挺好玩喔 ,
而我喜歡跟你傾密偈 ,
更愛你心裡熱情火熱!」

或許我們應該把這首詩譜出一支歌 ─
我猜這首詩有這樣的潛質 !


怎樣和着音樂唱出歌詞 ? 我知道那份真情:

自從 快樂 聽到你的名字
他便走遍大街小巷找尋你
甚至在上星期曽經幾次親自走到我的門前 ─
柔情問我 , 來取你的地址
渴求你心美麗熱情熱火!




P.S. The above is a translation into Chinese from Hafiz's poem, whose original is :
"Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.


And several times in the last week,
God Himself has even come to my door—
Asking me for your address!


Once I said,
‘God, I thought you know everything,
Why are you asking me where your lovers live?’

And the Beloved replied,
‘Indeed, Hafiz, I do know Everything—
But it is fun playing dumb once in a while,
And I love intimate chat
And the warmth of your heart’s fire.’


Maybe we should make this poem into a song—
I think it has potential!


How does this refrain sound,
For I know it is a Truth:


Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.
And several times in the last week,
God Himself has come to my door—
So sweetly asking for your address,
Wanting the beautiful warmth of your heart’s fire."


Intimacy with the Unknown, Christmas 2005


Hi Tameer,

Before I forget just want to write this to you.

As we had been to India, you can imagine how would an India Lady doctor can be and how value it may be. Last month, here in Oakland, one India lady doctor was missing when she finished her clinic practice and tried to attend a medical meeting over the other side in my area in Alameda. Some what Hong Kong and Kowloon, but much closer. Both the lady and her car were missing for more than one month. The day before yesterday, they found her car and body at the other end of the street we are living. The car was driven into a boat ramp at the end of the street and submerged into the sea.

A similar case happened one year ago. Two men were drowned at the same spot in a car. What justice is that a good man or lady deserves, with all the good act in one's life. Just a little mistake of turning a street corner and ended her life.

So I am looking forward to seeing the good side of it and be happy to be on my daily moment. We are much warmer here with 15 to 20 degree C. but raining. It is not much of any Christmas here. Bye
B





Dear B,

They died out of metaphysical and mysterious reasons, I guess --- maybe for the sake of your awakening!

Here may I quote a piece of Light's writings: Thinking is dreaming while awake, dreaming is thinking while asleep.

We all are in a very deep sleep. We can scarcely stand aloof from dreaming while awake and thinking while asleep. We all are in a very very deep sleep, even war cannot disturb it.

It is very kind of you to take others' misfortunes into your own account, and it is a miracle that you happen to see things which even war cannot let you and us see them.

It's a warm strange X'mas, isn't it?

Old pal, Tameer > > ◎┤




Dear Light,

How are you? I'm learning to hear from your silence.

I'd like to share with you what I've emailed B.

Blessings showering to you from the sky!

Smiling,
Tameer


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Hello Tameer,
What a wonderful surprise to hear from you and to get a copy of your response to B. My heart has space for all of it! I was in Shanghai for three weeks in October. There I discovered that I am going back to our homeland to teach/share meditation and to imbibe myself in Chan and Dao. It's a happy discovery. Now we see how destiny unfolds together with intimacy with the unknown.
Meanwhile, to bring you and all the beloveds in Hong Kong holiday cheer and to wish you a blessed, prosperous, healthy and happy new year, I attach for you a painting I did to a poem by Hafiz last September during Creativity Week at the Miiamo Spa of the Enchantment Resort in Sedona , Arizona . The poem goes like this:




“Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.

And several times in the last week,
God Himself has even come to my door—
Asking me for your address!

Once I said,
‘God, I thought you know everything,
Why are you asking me where your lovers live?’

And the Beloved replied,
‘Indeed, Hafiz, I do know Everything—
But it is fun playing dumb once in a while,
And I love intimate chat
And the warmth of your heart’s fire.’

Maybe we should make this poem into a song—
I think it has potential!

How does this refrain sound,
For I know it is a Truth:

Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.
And several times in the last week,
God Himself has come to my door—
So sweetly asking for your address,
Wanting the beautiful warmth of your heart’s fire.”

With very best wishes,
Light






2008-03-03

摯友舒華照的關心 Jun21, 2006


生活比電影更戲劇化,近來看了幾部科幻電影是有關心念和時空的變換給人生帶來的因果變化,意味深遠。

任何微小變化都會引起不同方向的結果,生活的小變化可以變成生命的轉捩點,似乎你現在的生活將會有變化,把握覺知隨流而動。

有空可以到 S 辦公室上 (google talk) talk 一下,最好在下午一到四點或晚上八到十點通話。




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猜不到你在上面也看電影 , 是些甚麼電影呢 ? 我自己現在的人生劇本好像東唸幾句 , 西唸幾句 , 殘篇斷句 , 題旨不明 , 邊寫邊改 , 看前景: 柳暗花不明 , 水窮雲未起 ; 既不願跟別人 , 卻也做不成自己...
...托夢於烏有之邦 , 寫點文字解解聊 --

99年跟 R 一起去Pune, 有一次跟他傾偈 , 我說現代人苦於上不到天 , 下不到田 --
最近奕一點棋 , 稍涉象棋和圍棋 , 由棋理悟人生 --
覺知而隨流 , 把握契機為妙 , 如你所言 !

明天 (23日) 我可能會上 S 處(若不阻他) , 再傾 ! 祝生活美好 !
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P.S.
-- To cope with a situation, one has to stand up again and fight if he falls down, as taught in Western martial arts, but now I fall down gracefully once in a while, open my heart to Existence, as in Eastern martial arts.

non-duality


Jul26, 2007
Healthy liver


Hi Tameers this took me about an hour to transcribe - this tiny little bit..! you can listen to the cd tho if you want more answers to the live r.

note: that even i who knows a bit about the aussie accent can barely pick up every word. This is where its important that the understanding is there so the words are not garbled or the meaning.

So it goes like this- a vistor asks Bob:
what do you think about healing?


Bob: See everything as whole and there can be healing.

As they say, that spirit, so called spirits, can never know matter. The spirit is whole and complete and how it expresses as matter,it might naturally become whole and complete.
And there are so called healers that have done that, used that principle, as thats all in the manifestation expressing anyway.

As you know its all that essence or spirit or whatever you like to call it , there is nothing that is not already perfect, is not already whole and complete, even if it's manifesting as brokenness, the thing is, don't try and fix the appearance- understand grasp and stay with the essence of what you are.

Then the appearance will change, might change, accordingly or it might not. whatever it does, it will be no big deal either way.

Because what you are is birthless and deathless anyway uncontaminated or untouched or added and that applies to any other manifestation in the universe also, whether they know it or see it or not.

Where are you taking this healing..Have a look at this so called healings-jesus who was sposed to be risen from the dead , where is he now?
...what was the point...you can heal or patch things up buts its only transient same as the rest of manifestation - any body that has ever been healed that might be around now,
what was the point... why patch things up,why patch up the appearance.

Essence was never born or ever died..
If you feel like doing it or its done, thats what happens also ... Its only an appearance only temporary thats seemingly healed or patched up
-the essence was never born or never died. It must only be the appeance that must only be healed or patched up any way. you remain.

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hi m,
yeah, bold manifestation through the incompleteness or brokenness is whole and healing..
the live-r is living, every act is whole, every moment is fresh and flowing...
thank you very much for your transcribing bob's sayings
i wouldn't come tomorrow, so see you somewhere some other time

^_^ t



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Jul27, 2007

>bold manifestation

what is bold mean...its good you dont come tomorrow as it will probably be no one arriving except the helper! No thing to say anymore anyway...except see a dvd and one can see them anywhere!

m

◎┤

boldnot hesitating to accept the seemingly broken, impaired, crippled... hard-feeling, handicapped... ugly, tainted or tarnished... cold-hand, ill-health...tongue-tied.... disillusioned...hope-shattered, die-hard romantic... ghost-limbed... dwarfed-by-masters, incomplete, impotent, unenlightened......appearances;

or, on the other hand, arrogant, aggressive, god-toxicated...fundamentalist devil's advocate.... cold-blood, killer-mechanic-zombie.....illusioned.... of conspicuous consumption, overly beautified, deeply mystified........appearances

not hesitating to accept whatever we look like

t

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To M, Sep 2, 2007


hi m,

it's hot and a rather twisted ride to my place, where a stranger couldn't bear to see things, material, stuff scattered around like a degrading factory, a camel untied without allah's notice, a nowhere land for lonely books, an aborted action of misled great expectations, a matrix for savages and hermits...the days after the mid-autumn festival might be better, when order is born out of chaos, hopefully

the souls of books, not excepting surdham's and those of humans, need our prayers and blessings... the sky looks very blue, until people don't need it blue... love and music is romantic until people don't need it to be romantic, until the sound of silence is heard...


are you going to join the consciousness meetup in kwun tong the coming saturday?

t




of course i dont mind coming by to your secret place...
m
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2008-02-28

啊 !


我地偉大的祖國 ! (老友 "一代辭仙" 馮中郎 之口頭禪 )
久不久 , 一個念頭浮上來 , 想寫一點甚麼的 , 寫中國人虛弱的靈魂 *_* , 沒有關懷 , 沒有信任 , 成長好像漫漫長夜 , 夢魘連連! 也想起

毛澤東主席 , 他的魅力 、鎮懾力、改造力 !英雄崇拜啊...英雄崇拜 !

雖然在雲南住了一些日子 , 中國總好像個奇異的國度 , 令人神往 , 也令人無所適從 , 偌大的中國啊 !有大國風範的中國啊 ! *_*


P.S. 也許是網路警察或守門人的緣故 , 國內的朋友看不到我這裏寫的網誌 !

文字遊戲


GOOD GRIEF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good : 咕嘀 , 嘀咕之相反 , 不埋怨
grief : 孤詣乎 , 清心是志於一事也 !

good grief : 經過傷痛 ...... 不怨天 , 不尤人 , 苦心孤詣 ,
清心是志於一事

給師傅的信


尊愛的師傅 :
多謝你多年來的悉心教導 ! 這幾年我處於人生之幽谷 , 柳暗花不明 , 忐忑不安 ; 最近研棋打譜 , 啟靈感以策應人生 , 以免日後荒怠無着... 生關死劫難渡 , 且讓我當蟄龍去吧 !...... 在此向 師傅深深一拜 , 珍重 , 再見 !
徒弟 談美 敬上

寄於 丙戌年 甲午月 丙申日 丙申時

那健庭警語


那健庭(清滿人棋手)嘗言: 凡下棋須挨次著看透敵子之明暗遠近 , 然後審己方子力的地位 , 計算所能到之遠近得失... 局勢緊急時 , 大概只有一子一路為妙奕... 其餘非失着即弱着
魯奕棋城外史p.33