蜕变

├  5月 20日

自從上了Shunyo 的靜心營 (3月1至2日)， 這兩個多月來，差不多每天都有大解 ， 身體開始蜕变 ，变得輕盈，跳舞時異常敏捷，無念而動，舞出情緒的浪湧......狂喜......想哭，跟舞蹈合而為一。 自從06年10 月開始上 Bhakta 和 Amana 的 ‘共依存’、‘呼吸’、‘愛—生命的向度’、‘自我的探詢’多個靜心營以來，心靈功課進步良多，對自己所下的功夫的收穫愈來愈多！不只這樣，發覺自己參與的團體也愈來愈成熟，團體裏的人变得有更多的愛，更少的誤解！茫茫人海，能夠最後找到一個跟自己有很深的聯繫，幫助自己，也幫助別人智慧成長的團體頗不容易呢！

白髮雖多，人生雖苦，仍見豐足！感謝一切，無言的感謝！

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Businessman 1 of 14

Feb 29, 2008 Friday 11:47:52 am

Come on, don't say anything like 'there's nothing more fail than success' again.

This second richest man in the world is 'more success than success'.



WOW........amazing (read below)
There was a one hour interview on CNBC with Warren Buffet, the second richest man who has donated $31 billion to charity. Here are some very interesting aspects of his life:
1. He bought his first share at age 11 and he now regrets that he started too late! 2. He bought a small farm at age 14 with savings from delivering newspapers.
3. He still lives in the same small 3-bedroom house in mid-town Omaha, that he bought after he got married 50 years ago. He says that he has everything he needs in that house. His house does not have a wall or a fence.
4. He drives his own car everywhere and does not have a driver or security people around him.
5. He never travels by private jet, although he owns the world's largest private jet company.
6. His company, Berkshire Hathaway, owns 63 companies. He writes only one letter each year to the CEO's of these companies, giving them goals for the year. He never holds meetings or calls them on a regular basis. He has given his CEO's only two rules.
Rule number 1: do not lose any of your share holder's money.
Rule number 2: Do not forget rule number 1.
7. He does not socialize with the high society crowd. His past time after he gets home is to make himself some pop corn and watch Television.
8. Bill Gates, the world's richest man met him for the first time only 5 years ago. Bill Gates did not think he had anything in common with Warren Buffet. So he had scheduled his meeting only for half hour. But when Gates met him, the meeting lasted for ten hours and Bill Gates became a devotee of Warren Buffet.
9. Warren Buffet does not carry a cell phone, nor has a computer on his desk.
His advice to young people: "Stay away from credit cards and invest in yourself and Remember:
A. Money doesn't create man but it is the man who created money.
B. Live your life as simple as you are.
C. Don't do what others say, just listen to them, but do what you feel is good.
D. Don't go on brand names; just wear those things in which U feel comfortable.
E. Don't waste your money on unnecessary things; rather spend on those people who are really in need.
F. After all it's your life - then why give chance to others to rule your life."

Businessman 2 of 14

Feb 29, 2008 Friday 12:38:15 pm

Your intention is good !
But some others use these great models to dwarf others, even though they do it subconsciously and by doing so, they forget their own issues, their own life full of desires and pain.
And there is no need to pose a position. Great men do it their way, make great success, make immense mistakes...I do it my way, failure or success, big or small, who cares !? I admire the man who wrote "The sound of silence".
^_^ Tameer

Businessman 3 of 14

Feb 29, 2008 Friday 2:47:28 pm

Tk u for ur prompt reply.
If you know me well, you'll know my intention as well - to stop people from dwarfing themselves and make them face their own wants and desires instead of suppressing and avoiding them.
The Osho's saying 'there's nothing more fail than success' should never be an excuse! No one can do anything his/her own way if he/she doesn't even dare facing his/her own wants and desires.

Latinmaniac

Businessman 4 of 14

Mar 5, 2008 Wednesday 9:53:08 am

Hi Latinmaniac,

W. Buffet lives simple life and states simple facts, it's the simplicity that strikes, adds propaganda to his enormous wealth.
He smiles sweet. He is very very successful and rich, everyone knows that.
He gives good advice. Some of his followers give coaching according to his rules, I think.
Some who are eager to earn much money, take him as a great model, have followed the track to be a businessman, a financial planner, etc.

It's his sense of security and confidence that strikes me, not the amount of wealth that does so.
It's the mental quality that makes him so successful.

I never heard Osho say 'there's nothing more fail than success', by the way, in which book or discourse of him can we find this quote?..You might say,'You are a disciple of Osho, you should know that.' But I don't, sorry !
And the sentence doesn't sound like common sense, so it's a matter of interpretation with reference to personal experience...then a never-ending story unfolds...

Bhakta says it's the object-split in us that might push us into extremes of character. So, some love masters, others hate masters...they become antagonists, dual and duel, not non-dual. The mind for dual and duel, meditation for non-dual, non-duel.
Very interesting !

Everyone has his mask, and mask needs excuses, mind needs excuses. No need to mask above or below the mind, enlightened ones, above the mind, no mask, lunatic ones, below the mind, no mask.

I wish myself facing myself, more and more into myself !

Wish U more success than success !

:) Tameer

Businessman 5 of 14

Mar 5, 2008 Wednesday 1:17:32 pm

Hi Tameer,

Actually, the sentence ''there's nothing more fail than success' may not be the correct, exact wording. and is ‘没有比成功更失败' in Chinese. I heard this English version from Bhakta in 'growing in essence workshop', and I'm always too stupid to remember the exact wordings in English.
Yes, I always focus on qualities, and 'factors & consequences' as well. It's Mr Buffet's quality (factor) I appreciate, and his wealth (consequence) is the second thing.

But there's nothing to do with whether I love or hate the master(s); actually, right at this moment, I neither love nor hate any masters, including Osho - what I only care about is whether those masters can help or not.

I just use Mr Buffet's experience and Osho's quote to satirize those cowards who don't have any courage to face their own wants and desires and even find excuses to justify their cowardice.

And I totally have no idea whether I'm above, at or below my mind, though I never find excuses for myself regarding my essence, personality, behaviour, things done... Again, that's not what I care about.

What I only focus and care about is what I want and don't want, not even what I have and don't have.

Things I want and have, I'll treasure and preserve.

Things I want but don't have, I'll try my best to get.

Things I don't want but have, I'll put aside or even trash.

Things I don't want and don't have, I'll simply ignore.

Be practical, be realistic, be 'thick n black' (厚黑)... is now my way of living.

Wish you getting more n more into yourself as well!

Latinmaniac

p.s. 米當你系救世者! D新聞鮮血寫(寫寫寫寫寫寫...)!

Businessman 6 of 14

Mar 5, 2008 Wednesday 11:09:40 pm

Hi Latinmaniac,

You assert your position and orientation very clearly ! I can feel your male energy assertion in your writings.

In Bhakta and Amana's groups, I could feel my own emotions when you echoed my self-claimed saviour shadow jokingly. Somehow I could feel embarrassed and irritated - I know now I have always been too serious - but when I felt your jokes coming from your female side, then I could see you in a new light. You never meant to hurt anyone even when you openly satirized others' cowardice or pretentiousness !

I come, I see, I unlearn.

I would like to have your permission to post our exchanged emails onto my blog.

Would appreciate your care and acceptance !

And just admire your audacity !

^_^ Tameer

Businessman 7 of 14

Mar 6, 2008 Thursday 1:53 pm

Hi Tameer,

Posting our exchanged email onto your blog? Sure! Why not? I'm flattered!

Sure I never meant to hurt anyone... The fact is, I NEITHER EVER MEANT TO HURT ANYONE NOR EVER MEANT NOT TO HURT ANYONE!

WHAT I MEANT TO DO IS TO TELL THE TRUTH!

IF THE TRUTH HURTS, IT HURTS.

AND THE POINT IS - TRUTH ONLY HURTS THOSE COWARDS WHO DON'T EVEN DARE FACING THE TRUTH AND THEMSELVES, THEIR OWN WANTS AND DESIRES.

At least in the cases of 'love & hate', 'above, at or below mind', 'to hurt or not to hurt'... I don't have any 'object split'.

S will soon post my personal sharing of 'growing in essense workshop' on his website, and you will see more of my point of view regarding this, see how I satirize... no, see how I scold at those cowards.

Maybe I should say sorry to you for my too much kidding on your self-claiming to be a saviour. But you know what? Though I always kid on your self-claming to be a saviour, I do appreciate your honesty to yourselves and others for your own wants and desires - the desire to become a saviour. At least you never hide it from anyone include yourself.

One thing we both have to remember is - we've got to know what it takes to become what we wanna become, and then try our best to get what it takes to become what we wanna become.

What it take to become a saviour? You know it 10,000 times more than me! I think you've already got at least some of what it takes to become a saviour. Your next step should be trying your best to get all it takes to become a saviour.

Me? You know it well, I always wanna become a unordinary, successful person, a star, with strong charm & talent, popular among my students, fans, ladies... Sure I know what it takes very well, and now I've got to try my best to get all it takes to be successful.

Let's work hard together from now on!

Cheers

Latinmaniac

p.s. I'll probably go to the AUM meditation class on 15 Mar 08. Will you attend that class as well?

Businessman 8 of 14

Mar 7, 2008 Friday 11:40:17 pm

Hi Latinmaniac,

I smiled, perhaps in a silly awkward way, when you started the joke on me...

You sing more humorously than 關正傑 : 咪當你係救世者! D新聞鮮血寫...寫寫寫寫寫！))))))))))

(I know now I have always been too serious, like a German.)

Please don't feel or say sorry ! I enjoy the way you sing the joke !


...也許鮮血瀉瀉瀉瀉瀉瀉瀉 ))))))))))

...吿別革命...中南海的大人們也不提革命了!

Meditation is the last revolution ! 即使吿別革命...但不吿別靜心!

I'm going to join AUM med tomorrow, and probably join on Mar15, Sat.

Agree to what you say..make great efforts and win all and be successful...yeah

What is the taste of success? Must taste like French cheese and butter, grape wine, martini, or vodka.. like lazy man's zen

Tameer

Businessman 9 of 14

Mar 8, 2008 Saturday 8:16:54 pm

Hi Tameer,

Glad you like my humourous singing style!!!!

But as you said that you always smile in a silly, awkward way while I kid on you, and you are always been too serious like a German, I think I've got something to say about being a saviour, dispite you know about being saviour 10,000 times better than me.

There must be a million things a saviour should do in order to save the world, but I think there's one of those jobs, missions a saviour should do which everybody may ignore, but nobody dare deny.

That is - BRING JOY, LAUGHTER, HAPPINESS AND COLOUR TO THE WORLD!!!

HOW CAN A SERIOUS GERMAN WHO ALWAYS SMILE IN A SILLY, AWKWARD WAY BRING JOY, LAUGHTER, HAPPINESS AND COLOUR TO THE WORLD?!?!?!?!

I think you've ignored this, but I don't think you would ever dare disagree with it.

Being a saviour is not as burdensome as what you think!!!

From now on, don't you ever mind being a 'funny saviour'!!!

Instead of being like a German, be like a French, Italian, Spanish, Brazillian, Cuban, Argentine, Latin Americans, Africans... like me!!!

This is gonna be your first 'revolution'!!!

The taste of success? I can't tell. If I say, 'the taste of success is the taste of vodka', then you'll ask me, 'what's the taste of vodka?'; if I answer, 'the taste of vodka is strong', then you'll ask, 'what is a strong taste?'...

Never ending questions, never ending answers.

Anyone who wanna know the taste of success should taste it by him/herself.

And how can we define 'success'?

Be like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet... who owns billions of billions dollars? Be like Michael Jackson, Madonna... who charm everyone in the world by performing on stage? Be Tyra Banks, Kate Moss... who fully express the word 'beauty'? Be Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikonnen... who won champions by mastering a 1000 bhp machine?

Or be Mother Teresa, Osho... who dedicate their lifes to help all the people in the world?

Or simply get a stable job, build a family, have a child or two?

You can see, different people has different definition of 'success'.

But I can say that there's one thing in common in definition of 'success' - BEING FULLY SATISFIED!!!

???

What 'being fully satisfied' is all about?

First, let me show you my definition of 'greed', 'desire', 'actual wants'.

... No, before I distinguish this three terms, I want you to watch a TV ad of Star World Hotel Macau starring Tony Leung Chiu Wai. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYRAHM5cL5U

OK, let's go back to this 3 odd terms-

'Greed' is when a person doesn't know what he/she actually want, doesn't know what kind of things can fully satisfy him/herself, but yet feel unsatisfied, empty inside, so keep on grabbing things, whatever things, but still can never be satisfied, and then keep on grabbing things, and still unsatisfied......

'Desire' is when a person thinks that he/she knows what kind of things can fully satisfy him/herself, but actually don't, and try to grab those stuffs who he/she thinks can satisfy him/herself, but after successfully getting those stuffs, he/she still can't get satisfied, and then keep on grabbing those things, and still unsatisfied, and try again to satisfy him/herself by grabbing......

'Actual wants' is when a person truly knows what he/she wants, truly knows under the bottom of his/her heart what can keep him/herself satisified, and will be fully satisfied and stop grabbing other things after successfully getting those stuff that keeps him/her satisfied.

And can you see why I quote this TV ad? Can you see anything related?

In this ad, after Tony Leung entered the club house, he saw so many beautiful ladies who keep on seducing him and stop him from walking, but he never stopped until he saw the Star World Hotel. He said, 'there's only one place worth me stop - I choose Star World Hotel, Macau.'

Tony Leung's 'actual wants' is Star World Hotel, not those beautiful, sexy ladies. He never try to grab those ladies, though it's easy for him to do so, cos he knows what he wants very well. And after he reached the hotel, he stop walking, stop searching as he's fully satisfied by this hotel.

And there's another fact about this 3 terms - THOSE WHO HAVE MUCH 'GREED', 'DESIRE' ARE THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, BECAUSE THEY NEVER FOLLOW THEIR HEARTS, NEVER TAKE A LOOK ON THEIR HEARTS, NEVER CONTACT WITH THEIR HEARTS!!!

TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, SOME PEOPLE EVEN SUPPRESS THEIR 'GREED' AND 'DESIRE'... THEY WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S THEIR ACTUAL WANTS THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE!!!

I already know what's my 'Star World Hotel'. I don't need Osho to distinguish this 3 term for me, nor do I need him to tell me what's my actual wants.

Hey Tameer, have you figure out what's your 'Star World Hotel' yet? Is it exactly 'becoming a saviour'?

If no, wish you figure it out soon; If yes, wish you get it done soon.

And this is gonna be your second 'revolution'!!!

And 'meditation' should not be you 'final' 'revolution', but instead should be your 'weapon' used in 'revolution'.

Cheers,

Latinmaniac

Businessman 10 of 14

Mar 9, 2008 Sunday 2:17:21 am

Hi Latinmaniac,

You are clever. I cannot help asking where you have learnt all this. Would you tell me?

I said 'perhaps' before I said 'in a silly awkward way' so as to be soft, and to acknowledge your joke and the way you sing the joke, just for fun. So, I have said to you: Please don't feel or say sorry!

I used a pair of parentheses to bracket the sentence : I know now I have always been too serious, like a German. What's more, I used a different type of font, a smaller font, to mean that I don't struggle with my own seriousness, don't force it to change, accept the appearance, then let the energy beneath the appearance flow. I know now......I am not serious any longer as soon as the act of knowing happens to me. At least not very serious.

I don't want to satirize or scold those who are not serious, who appear very different from me. My energy is not to be used in this way.

I SEE YOU CAN BRING JOY, LAUGHTER, HAPPINESS AND COLOUR TO THE WORLD!!!

I can bring some writings to the world. I have already experienced my joy and sorrow and put them in words. My readers, if any, might have quite different interpretations for words from mine, and it's their freedom to like or dislike my writings.

Revolution is a romantic word for me. Meditation is romantic. Being a saviour is romantic too. The more burdensome the task, the more romantic, as shown in the Myth of Sisyphus. So, I associate them together.

But, even the Communist China does not mention revolution now, so the word is outdated. It is nostalgic to remember stuff like revolution, saviour. Nostalgia is romantic, a bit sick, though.

So, revolution, meditation, or being a saviour is not something to get done. It is a kind of romantic yearning from within, deep down in heart, from without, high up in soul ! There is no final destination. The path is the destination, although it seems absurd.

The Star World Hotel and Tony is great showmanship ! Why not get those girls first?...I'm just kidding !
Maybe Tony just pretended not to be attracted. Or if Tony owns that hotel, then he is not anxious to go after those girls. He is then rich enough to have as many girls as he likes. He has shown his pride and nobility not to be attracted.

'Funny Saviour' is a good subject-matter for writing.

Taste is subjective, cannot be told, but when one is really tasting, he is enjoying the moment. Taste is a door to enjoyment ! The more one is in the moment, the more he enjoys! That is meditation.

A castle is more appealing to me. If the Star World Hotel was a castle, I would have done the same as Tony, and would first have lessons in great showmanship before the ad movie.

Although sometimes I thought that I would enjoy hard-earned success after hard-fought battles for years, what would it taste if 'I', my total being, was not in that moment ? Then, it would seem to be more like a failure than a success, it would not justify the great endeavour.

I'm enjoying my writing and typing now, although it's almost 2am late into the night.

No need to be like anybody, may he be a great model. I'm centering into myself.

Material gains would come naturally after hard work. Modern man bothers too much.

I would hate myself if I had pretended to be a saviour.

The saviour felt great pain for he couldn't even save himself !

Sometimes I hate petty success and failure. That's my ego!

Real success consists in contentment, peace, love, egolessness.

Meditation is the weapon for fighting gracefully...yeah !

Cheers, even no Beers !

Tameer

Businessman 11 of 14

Mar 9, 2008 Sunday 3:58:29 pm

Hi Tameer,

It's getting more & more interesting in writing, sharing and exchanging ideas with u.

Hey, don't flatter me. I'm clever? Everything I said is not theory, knowledge... learnt from others; it's my true personal experience! Everyone in this world has the right and ability to have their own experiences and share it with others. That's nothing special.

You try to guess what Tony thinks in the tv ad, but, being straight forward, I dare say that it's your own projection on his thoughts and feelings.

You said that you're kidding while you guess why Tony doesn't grab the ladies first, and try to find out the reason. But why don't you kid another way and guess, 'In this ad, Tony is a gay and have no interest on women. There are so many hot guys waiting for him in Star World Hotel.'?

Another reason why Tony didn't stop for the ladies: 'Tony is a straight guy, but were too picky on women and have no interest on those ladies in the club house, and there are ladies with even far higher qualities waiting for him in Star World Hotel.'

One more: 'Tony is not quite a sexual, horny guy, but a gamble addict. He doesn't have much interest in hot guy, hot ladies, but only gambling. As there are so many casinos inside or around Star World Hotel, he never stop for the ladies, keep walking until he reached the hotel.'

I, with a little arrogance, dare guess that this 3 reasons I quote is even more likely to be true.

When you said, 'Maybe Tony just pretended not to be attracted. Or if Tony owns that hotel, then he is not anxious to go after those girls. He is then rich enough to have as many girls as he likes. He has shown his pride and nobility not to be attracted.' Are you really talking about what Tony thinks? Or is it your own PROJECTION of what YOU think?

But, no matter what, everything we guess on what Tony thinks is sheer bull shits!!!

You said that you like meditation, but do you agree that one of the main object of meditation is '作如是觀'?

What I only heard Tony said in this ad is, 'There's only one place worth me stop - I choose Star World Hotel, Macau.'

And, from this sentence, from everything I saw in this ad, I can only see that Tony never stop his pace for anything including the ladies, except Star World Hotel. Whatever reason, he only stop for the hotel - the hotel is his final object - no matter this hotel can give him hot guys, even hotter girls, gambling, pride, nobility...

If he stop for the hotel for the hot guys and/or even hotter girls, then those hot guys and/or even hotter girls is his 'actual wants'.

If he stop for the hotel for the pride and nobility you mentioned, then pride and nobility is his 'actual wants'.

If he stop for the hotel for the casinos and gambling, then gambling is his 'actual wants'.

And if he stop for the hotel just for the hotel itself, then the hotel is his 'actual wants',

That's all.

And, from your latest email, I dare guess that your 'actual wants' is not revolution, not meditation, not even being a saviour, but 'ROMANCE'!!!

But sure I know nothing about what you want, just like we don't know what Tony thinks in the TV ad. And there's no right or wrong, but it's your own responsibility to figure it out yourself anyway.

Never try to guess what other people think, or we'll hit the wall. Remember what Socrates said, 'I don't know nothing.'?

There only one thing I wanna tell you - THERE'S SOMEHOW CONFLICT BETWEEN BEING SERIOUS AND BEING ROMANTIC.

And don't get it wrong - success is not neccessary hard earned.

I think I should repeat - SUCCESS IS 'BEING FULLY SATISFIED'.

So in your case, as contentment, peace, love, egolessness, romance... and a castle can keep you fully satisfied, it's your definition of success, no matter it's hard earned or easy earned.

Anyway we don't dare deny that there are some people who enjoy the process of competitions and fully satisfied with material gain. I know some people even never retire from working after retiring age and take their work and career as entertainment.

Again, there no right or wrong for either way of life, no matter being a hard working bee or a playful butterfly. Nobody has the right to critizise, condemn, not even Osho.

Yes, maybe we shouldn't satirize and scold others too much - Osho has done too much of something like this.

What I still insist is - no matter what way of life we choose, we just enjoy the process, gain, and be responsible for any consequences caused.

And please make sure that contentment, peace, love, egolessness, romance... and a castle is not just your second choice - so many people in the religions, meditation camp pursue are losers in the material world, fail to get success, and then try to forget about those 'sour grape' by pursuing spiritual stuffs.

What I wanna say is those people who think like this will never have and transcendence in spiritual world.

That's why I quote Warren Buffet's example to you guys.

If ones 'actual wants' is not those material gain, one will feel nothing after reading his example.

But if one got a strong feeling after reading his story, then one should try to look more into him/herself.

Think about it.

Latinmaniac

Businessman 12 of 14

Mar 14, 2008 Friday 10:40:47 am

Hi Latinmaniac,

It's W. Buffet's cool strategic thinking and determined character that make him so successful !

The ad movie is so attractive, I see you are very determined at targeting your own 'actual wants'. Success is in you already, for your determination makes it crystallized in you. Success just appears to be something to get done. As above, so below.

>so many people in the religions,

meditation camp

are losers in the material world,

fail to get success,

and then try to forget about

those 'sour grape'

by pursuing spiritual stuffs...◎

I'm sympathetic and sometimes empathetic with them
... whether they read deep into W. Buffet is up to themselves

My mind said: Conflict doesn't matter -- I suddenly see my defense mechanism! We are all in conflicts, maybe you are an exception - I'm flattering you, ain't i? But, I could be both quite serious a scholar and romantic a poet -- I surprised myself.

We know only one-tenth of our unconscious, if people all know themselves, Sigmund Freud won't be so famous, his disciples like C. G. Jung and others won't be so famous, and, their descendants, for instance, NLP won't be so widespread.

Anyway, I take your note.

Personality is persona is mask is character armour is......
All people need it, not excluding great teachers, great models, or the so-called 'enlightened' ones. How can we know they meant what they said and they said what they meant. We are often lost in others' legends, myths, and the labyrinth of discourses and arguments.

By the way, I see the point why Osho scolds or criticizes politicians and 'religious' hypocrites - they don't mean what they say, they say what they don't mean!!

I am not in the shadow of great enlightened ones, our fathers, as I wish only light !

I projected onto others, if or when I attributed to others what I was thinking and feeling and did not admit it was I who was thinking and feeling. But, I was just amusing with the ad movie.

Scientifically speaking, all the possibilities you and I mentioned are not bullshit, they are hypothesis-testing, and under close investigation there is an answer as in Tony's case, if it was not showmanship, if there is any truth, as in a murder case, there must be murderer(s).

Projection, identification, and other psychological processes in the mind are busily moving. They are doers. Let them do their tasks.

'We' are the watchers, often fogged by mist of mysteries, and in moments of no mist, we have a glimpse of 'TRUTH' - maybe.
There is no 'us' but the energy of consciousness, essence, existence. This is non-duality. I'm intoxicated in 'TRUTH', non-duality, ain't I?

'GROOVE' or 'TRUTH' are only Brand names for Wines Of Life -- certainly, we have quite different taste from drunken sailors !

Cheers, even no beers ! I'm not an alcoholic for wines !

^_^ Tameer

Businessman 13 of 14

Mar 14, 2008 Friday 12:57:01 pm

Hi Tameer,

Sure I agree with you saying that 'W. Buffet's cool strategic thinking and determined character that make him so successful.'

But sure there's one more important thing - HE FULLY ENJOY THE PROCESS OF ACCUMULATING WEALTH AND FULLY SATISFIED BY THE SATISFACTION OF SUCCESS.

SUCCESS IS A JOURNEY, NOT A DESTINATION. Sure you've heard 'bout that.

Anyway, as I've told you another email about my prototype, though I kinda like eating 'buffet' (Warren Buffet), I'm not very into it, and I'd rather know (Beyonce Knowles) how to lope (Jennifer Lopez) between cool (L L Cool Jay) timber and lake (Justin Timberlake).

And if you don't feel the conflicts between seriousness and romance, then I think you've really got flexibility - you're flexible enough to switch between being serious and romantic.

If it's true, then congratulations!

I don't dare deny that there's something romantically serious, and seriously romantic as well. Maybe you're doing something like that sometimes.

Just like in my case, is there any conflict between discipline and groove, sexuality and stylishness? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Do you know how L L Cool Jay keep his beautiful, muscular body by jogging, boxing & weight training for hours a day?!?!

Osho satirized those politicians and religious hypocrites, I yell at those losers with thoughts of 'sour grape', and we're somehow doing the same thing.

Politician, religious hypocrites, and those losers with thoughts of 'sour grape' have one thing in common - they never say what they mean, never mean what they say, and always say what they don't mean.

And those who never say what they mean, never mean what they say, and always say what they don't mean are exactly COWARDS!

I agree with you about hypothesis-testing, but there should be as least projection as possible in it.

At least I've made 3 more assumptions assume that Tony's a gay, a picky extreme, and a gamble addict after you made only one.

Again,

'GROOVE' IS MY 'TRUTH', &

'TRUTH' IS YOUR 'GROOVE'.

Latinmaniac

Businessman 14 of 14

Mar 14, 2008 Friday 2:38:38pm

Hi Latinmaniac,

>At least I've made 3 more assumptions

that Tony's a gay, a picky extreme,

and a gamble addict

after you made only one. ◎

That's why I said you're so determined in targeting at your 'actual wants' since I sensed that you're crystal-clear about Tony's ad, a great showmanship. I wouldn't deny that I somehow 'projected' men's sexual hidden impulse, for men's, that's others', that's not mine, then that's exactly projection. And 'projected' your seemingly playboy part, and our pride, nobility, our self-control. But, I was aware and 'projection' vanished.
I honour you in all you say, all your possibilities!

> SUCCESS IS A JOURNEY, NOT A DESTINATION.

Sure you've heard 'bout that◎

Yeah...it's in my heart, my being.

Osho is much a metal person, so he comes to strike, awaken...or destroy
So, if you bear energy alike to strike...then GO AHEAD, that's your energy !

>Anyway, as I've told you another email about my prototype,

though I kinda like eating 'buffet' (Warren Buffet),

I'm not very into it,

and I'd rather know (Beyonce Knowles)

how to lope (Jennifer Lopez)

between cool (L L Cool Jay) timber

and lake (Justin Timberlake)◎

Again, your literary talents - I can't help quoting it.

L L Cool Jay has been working very hard ! Good ! I see you're working hard and fast, too! Any conflicts ? Just go, flow, and see !

Different things like conflicts can come together to nourish upward developments !

Eat conflict like cornflake !

Thank you for your saying on seriousness and romance.

Good luck !

:) Tameer

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Mar14, 2008, 11:45pm

Hi A & S,

More e-mail exchanges between Latinmaniac and me !

Thanks for your kind attention !

^_^ Tameer

修道船 之 《合久必婚？》

2008-03-22, 18:40
修道船之《合久必婚？》原文：
奧修 (Osho) 反對婚姻和司法制度，他認為將愛和法律扯上關係是醜陋的，他也反對佔有、束縛和限制，因為靈魂的本質正是自由和意識。所以他反對控制、制約與戒律。

奧修不反對來自內在的誡律，他說覺知才是真正的紀律，覺知加上規範就是求道的基礎。我曾經是個十分傳統而保守的人，小學至中學時代我的道德標準極高，嚴以律己，也嚴以待人，弄得神憎鬼厭，處處不受歡迎。

未接觸奧修書籍以前，我一直認為自己將來一定要結婚生子，並把自創的武術傳授給兒女。如今回顧自己曾有這種自私的想法，真是非常自我，妄顧未來子女的自由和意願。

後來我贊同奧修的講法，並不是由於他是成道大師，也不是基於他是我的師父，而是我明白了婚姻背後的恐懼、佔有、操控與不安全感。這是恐懼而不是愛，你並不信任自己、情人和生命。

終於到了表妹結婚的日子，我要決定是否出席她的婚宴。地點位於黃埔花園的海逸酒店。自從茹素以後，我都盡量避免出席飲宴場合。雜食者可能很難明白素食者的心情和苦衷，無法體會箇中的感受及尷尬。加上我是一個反對婚姻和繁文縟節的人，覺得這些繁複的儀式既無聊又無謂，惹我反感。

其實我和表妹的關係相當疏離，尤其是她移民外國多年。縱使她現已回歸祖國，我們卻形同陌生。可是我的姑姑 (即是她媽媽) 在我童年時待我很好，所以我最終決定出席她的婚宴。

我還是第一次光臨這間酒店，從這裡的落地玻璃可以一覽無敵大海景，讓人心曠神怡。這兒格調高尚、氣派不凡。當然啦，他們是有錢人家，只要是金錢可以解決的都不是問題。我不是第一次出席別人的婚宴，不過每次我都覺得很奇怪，戀愛是兩個人的事，為何結婚卻變成了兩個家族的事？一對戀人幸福與否是他們的事，何解要所有的親朋好友一起恭賀與祝福他們？特別是那些跟他們完全不相熟的人……難道他們二人覺得幸福還不夠嗎？還需要群眾的認可及支持麼？

人類把婚姻和婚禮無限美化，彷彿這是一個人終生最美麗、最美好、最快樂的日子，而新娘、新郎甚至感動/感觸落淚。在我看來，婚姻只是一種社會性的集體催眠罷了。當中一切的美麗都是表面的包裝和幻象。

慶幸這間酒店居然可以即時為我烹調一系列的素食菜色，不用提前一星期通知，真是出乎意料。這裡的素菜水準遠超過一般酒家，不論在心思、營養、健康和味道方面都比酒樓出色。高級酒店果然不同凡響。吃素罕見地不用遭人歧視，而且可以在飲宴裡吃得飽、吃得豐富、吃得自在，真的可喜可賀！

雖然我和表妹沒什麼交情，但畢竟相識多年，我當然衷心希望她婚後感情生活美滿啦！我知道有些奧修門徒選擇結婚，也有一些求道者勸告我不要執著於不結婚，應該抱持可結婚可不結婚的心態。我不明白那些奧修門徒是基於什麼理由而結婚，然而，可以選擇的話，我始終傾向不結婚。因為我覺得這個儀式和這張證書沒什麼意義，而且麻煩又花錢。真正的承諾和結合就在我和愛侶的心中，在我倆的愛中，不在任何的儀式或證明文件裡。
修道船

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2008-03-24, 07:55
跟孩子們攬攬抱抱 , 無意中教些像摔跤或合氣道的功夫 , 叫他們不要失去先天力 , 也挺不錯呀 ！
我已把你的 《走出奧修》一文擺了在我的網誌上 , 好嗎 ?
婚宴裏能夠吃到好的齋菜 , 真好福氣！
人生方醒路正長 , 好好享受婆娑世界 , 隨緣隨喜 ！
談美
2008-03-26, 22:47
To 談美
求之不得啦！
談美師兄，你對婚姻有何看法呢？
有什麼值得結婚的好理由嗎？
結婚有何正面的意義及價值？
請賜教 !
修道船
2008-03-27, 02:24
多謝你的允許 ！
你對婚姻的看法已夠深刻 , 很好！這是人生一等大事 , 千言萬語也説不盡 ！渴望奇妙愛情和美滿良緣 , 是人心底普遍的期盼 , 尤以青春烈火燃燒歲月為甚 ！而幸福跟靈性成熟程度成正比 , 卻跟婚姻的朿縛成反比 ; 自以為成熟的人在婚姻的 "風險" 中往往輸得最慘！婚姻是個堡壘 , 防了外面的情賊 , 卻防不了心賊 ！人生總有失敗 , 若婚姻失敗 , 定有難言之苦 , 其苦或許可以使人的靈魂再生 , 依苦主的慧根悟性而定 , 痛定思痛 , 未來還有很多美好的日子 , 不宜太悲觀沮喪 ; 千萬不可把婚姻看作 "投資" , 因 "一己" 的 "我執" 一定受不了 "投資" 失利！最不妙的婚姻是為結婚而結婚 , 或者為受不了無形的壓力和莫名的寂寞而結婚 ！ 最好的婚姻是倆口子良性共依存 , 也是靈魂的共同成長！但活到這境地 , 則結不結婚並不重要 , 可惜明白人生是生命之流的人很少很少....... 人活着 , 總要覺醒覺知為妙為盼 !.....
.........至道無難 , 唯嫌揀擇 (信心銘)！
彷彿意有未盡 , 卻無話可説.........
談美
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