修道船《走出奧修》

2007-08-03, 13:32:45
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談美 : 最可貴的是那感悟生命底深不可測的神秘感 , 對混亂與不安定保持觀照 ,因此 , 生活的每一刻都是活然流動的 -- 飛鷹本來就在天空裏 -- 全然的自由 , 拔乎於流俗之上的癒合與神聖 ! 祝福 !


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2007-08-11, 14:34:45
希夷少年: 框框已破 , 好 ! 如如不動 , 好 ! 當下自然反應 , 好 ! --- 攝心 , 凝神 , 無念 , 無執 , 上乘武功之門方入 !

2007-08-13, 21:01:28
修道船: 希夷少年，你的名字和留言內容都好有趣，我認識你嗎？可以告訴我你是何方神聖嗎？

2007-08-14, 17:12:04
希夷少年: 少年心地最純 , 渾沌迷茫 , 茫茫然踏上與命運盲約的奇妙旅程 , 多好玩呢 ! (中國人喜古崇古託古 , 我也來一個把戲 , 把武功心法 歸給 宗師 希夷 先生 -- 好玩呢 ! -- 呀 , 若擔上欺師滅祖的罪名 , 可不是好玩的喲 !)

新的視野代表新的朋友 , 或友朋的新 ...去過三次印度 , 找尋 逝去的 '東方 ', 卻尋回自己的宿命 ... 武學是自己心靈功課中的一個課題 ...大隱隱於市 , 自息自存 ,並非何方神聖 ...道以誠而入 , 以默而守 ...旅程即是終點

2007-08-14, 20:21:28
修道船: 那麼，你是學什麼武術的？
太極？意拳？截拳道？還是自創武術？

2007-08-15, 13:48:12
希夷少年 : 學過一點太極 , 陳式但非老架 , 較似楊式的開濶舒展 , 不似吳式 ...現在所練的一種道家拳名為六合八法 , 這門拳法被傳為太極 , 形意 , 八卦之揉合 , 但這說法不對 , 應有高人出面 , 振臂高呼 , 以正視聽 ! 在這裏所說的只對事 ,不對人 , 故諱師尊之名 , 請諒 !

自創武術 , 功力非凡 自不待言 , 更重要的是推倒流俗的不羈 與佻脫 , 如李小龍先生之創截拳道 , 王薌齋先生 之創意拳 , 一士諤諤 , 敢為天下先 , 此關性情 , 非關學養 ...若無不世出之天才 , 特殊的風雲際會 , 誰敢輕言自創門派 , 千萬戒慎 ! 我只不過是人生的學生 , 真理的追尋者



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2007-07-30
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修道船 之《 走出奧修》 原文 :

最近某友人指稱我被奧修框住，令我有所感觸，勾起了昔日種種修行的片段，藉此回顧一下幾段難忘的往事。

我是一個幸運的人……不，世間沒有運氣這回事，只有意願和能量的自由創造，即是你創造自己的實相，藉由思、言、行，透過顯意識、潛意識、無意識、超意識以及個人與集體的共同創造。

我說自己幸運，是指我的靈魂早已替我安排好我的人生挑戰和願景，所以我自幼已經深明自由的重要性，一直拒絕加入什麼團體、組織，不想個人自由受到限制或束縛。換句話說，我不想被任何東西框住。慶幸我在武術方面能夠突破框框，開創出屬於自己的武術──適合自己的個人風格──沒有落入傳統武術的桎梏和枷鎖。

另一方面，雖然我曾經讀過設計，卻沒有跟隨傳統美學的角度判斷美醜，因為我不認為自己需要認同別人的價值觀，別人的審美觀念就只是別人的標準，我不服從外在的權威。

即便如此，我還是在不知不覺中受到家人和社會的制約，只是「中毒」的程度較淺而已。從小到大，我一向被人標籤為另類、怪胎、自閉、低能、獨行俠、妄想症、神經病等等。從古至今，超正常 (高於正常) 的人往往會遭受到嚴重的歧視、誤解及扭曲。無奈我也感染到大眾的負向思維和負面情緒的壞習慣。

靈修初期，我致力於發洩和釋放累積已久的負面情緒，以及被抑制的正向情感。接下來的階段，我著重培養和建立正面的思想及情感，盡量遠離與忽視負面的思維模式。

稍後，我利用觀照和覺知來擺脫根深柢固的習性，逐漸脫掉制約和認同。同時，我試著把毒素轉化為蜂蜜，並從負面中看到正面的訊息和意義，看出完美 (完整：完美中的不完美，不完美中的完美)。

後來我參加了十天內觀禪的密集禪修訓練，繼而突破正負兩極的二元對立，學習既不抓住快樂，也不排拒痛苦的平等心 (無分別心)。然而，唯有當我們不貪愛、不執著愉悅，也不抗拒和逃避痛苦、恐懼時，才能保持超然的狀態。它就是我們如如不動的本性──無選擇的覺知。一旦心存是非好惡，我們便會再度陷入習性之中：這是對的、這個很好，我要抓住更多；那是錯的、那個不好，我要拼命壓抑和否認它的存在。如此一來，我們又回到頭腦持續分裂、衝突的二元對立與掙扎中，不住被思想損耗掉自己的能量。

閱讀方面，求道早期，我經常執取奧修話語裡的某個觀點，當作至高無上的真理。及後我明白到奧修看事情的角度非常廣闊，他甚至可以從十個以上的立場看待同一件事呢！此舉讓我大開眼界之餘，也使我了解到，保持敞開和彈性的心才是修行的重點所在。

為了不依賴和執著奧修 (執著於奧修意味著執著自由、解脫和成道，這是最終的執著)，我開始接觸其他心靈書籍：禪修、藏密、佛學、克里希那穆提、新時代 (與神對話系列、塞斯書、許添盛醫師、歐林系列等等) ……我發現不同的大師、高靈、體系之間的學說和主張有著許多相似之處，但某些地方卻截然不同，非常不一致。這些差異令我感到混亂和不確定，保持不知道，並有一種不可知的神秘感。

存在充滿了奧秘，你永遠不能單靠知識或別人的經驗而開悟。眼看不少學者、專家或知識份子過度被知識綑綁和囚禁，活在自製的牢籠裡，我不願步他們的後塵。人好固執，經過千辛萬苦，終於放下舊的執著，轉眼間又拾起新的包袱。因此，我只好不斷通過閱讀和靜心脫掉種種制約、局限，重建新信念和認知，對我來說，那就是最好的破執方法了。

任何外在的知識和權威都不可取代個人內在的直覺和智慧。別人的經驗只可作為一種參考指標。世界瞬息萬變，根本沒有金科玉律或一成不變的價值標準。也許，凡事隨遇而安，適時隨機應變，每一刻自發性地反應──在當下自然反應──直接洞察世情，才是最自由、最清明的行動。或許這就是最佳的處世之道吧 !
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no thing

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aug4, 2007

> >what is a feeling, especially one which is hidden,

unable to come to the fore of consciousness?...

hidden or revealed feeling is not the real thing we both know on investigation that it all leads back to a thought...which is not the real

> .. it's heard that man is a useless passion,

isn't it?..

..compassion i dont know much.

>> i'll will magically my part of the secret house to the two cats,

sacred or scared,

if they live longer than me,

or to my cat-like girl-friend.

he he i like your keen sense of humor

> > what does sailor bob eat?

..his body eats food like us all ha ha. i notice him and his wife stick to the health realm..

> > i'm going to re-learn,

and re-learn.

there is no I.....no one to learn.. learning may happen or not...its all the same.... i sound like i am speaking in that foreign language - all part of the act ..

g wrote that line i sent for translation...see what flys
m

P again

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aug4, 2007

> money burnt and unlimited time spent in frolic and roaming..

no its all an illusion..its only my concept and imagination its probably the opposite. illusion again. and then i think that about you. you and her concepts about me may be the same! we are all in the same boat...
so can you translate this ...its begun

Where ever you appear to go......it is always NOW and HERE........you drag the whole universe in your wake.........
m

hi m manderine

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aug4, 2007
hi m manderine,
i admitted, get heated, up to the meetup..
the Queen of Spa or Spain, so wealthy as to live without any burden, even a guilt is vague without any pain..she must be young, money burnt and unlimited time spent in frolic and roaming..admirable..
i have been out of job for a long time -- tutoring for a friend's son doesn't count.. oh, the age of economic growth with joblessness is stealthily creeping in.. some day, small gigantic futuristic quantum computers might replace workers of any level...except for your humour and jokes....some day, a machine might be able to feel.. but what is a feeling, especially one which is hidden, unable to come to the fore of consciousness?... it's heard that man is a useless passion, isn't it?..
i'll will magically my part of the secret house to the two cats, sacred or scared, if they live longer than me, or to my cat-like girl-friend if she doesn't get married to an indian black or red.. ah, the electronic toy -- like a baby so fragile am i carrying now in the hot sun -- with my mother's consent if she lives long enough, the baby to go under the custody of HAL, not IBM....
i imagine the old great man shouting from the rooftops of the old old great nisargadatta..
i think of sailor popeye eating spinach.. what does sailor bob eat? .. does it do any good to the no-mind brain, where everything is epitomized into an everlasting NOW?
am i learning anything? yeah, i've learnt a great deal, but, who knows, all becomes obsolete in five years..still out of job then...but it doesn't matter, i'm going to re-learn, and re-learn...
t
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aug3, 2007
>your discussion would be more heated

if i had come to the party?

hey, have you been reading my thread..ha ha yes it was heated and i so enjoyed the play! Forgive me no one in particular as i wanted to leave that group regardless. (etolle meetup group in aust)
but if you are admitting you have that heated quality then i cant let you go.

>if p wants to do the translation, it's fine, let her do it

p Queen of the Spa, doesnt know what she wants..whether to be in usa or here, near her parents or away, work she likes or work she doesnt, guilt she puts on for leaving jobs so often, or guilt just in general, not even no what guilt to have let alone translate a great mans work..

>if she needs the laptop as a tool for translation, i'll return it to you or get it handed to her?

you mean to say that laptop actually translates! my god then you are both out of a job. but dont ever return the lap top as i just sold my in australia and i never want one of those things again....like having a baby carrying it around , declaring it everytime i pass thru somebodies customs...changing and charging its batter. not to mention the data part...no sir ee, you aint handing it to anyone, its yours now. regardless if you translate some ol mans transcription....do with it what you will (not that you have one, a will that is and i am not talking about a legal binding will when you die in ? yrs....who are you leaving your secret house to by the way?! and do not leave me that lap top in your will. p probably owns half of hong kong including franchise in the lap top shops ....and what was i saying oh yes...do whatever you like with your new toy....translate the old mans words or die...doesnt matter to me.. and i am sure bob doesnt mind, on the other hand he would be wrapped as he once told me he would shout from the rooftops to get the message through which is to take you beyond the need of help

ps g only realised what all this shouting from the rooftops was about when he first started transcribing bob's tapes....amazing what you can learn along the way isnt it...
love m manderine!

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yeah..in the form we think we know..indeed ! and you're non dual and passionate too !
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>UG Krishnamurti passed away on March 22, 2007

yeah sailor bob announced that way back at one of his meetings.. always a loss of planetary vibrations in the form we think we know..
i have a new teacher on the side he is non dual and passionate about it
m

夏飛馳之歌

自從 快樂 聽到你的名字
他便走遍大街小巷找尋你

神甚至在上星期曽經幾次親自走到我的門前 ─
來取你的地址 , 問我

有一次我説 :
「神啊 ！我以為你甚麼都知道 ,
卻還要問我你的情人住在那裡喔 ? 」

摯愛的神回答道 :
「無錯 , 夏飛馳 , 我甚麼都知道 ─
但久不久來個扮懵 , 尋尋開心 , 又挺好玩喔 ,
而我喜歡跟你傾密偈 ,
更愛你心裡熱情火熱！」

或許我們應該把這首詩譜出一支歌 ─
我猜這首詩有這樣的潛質 ！

怎樣和着音樂唱出歌詞 ? 我知道那份真情：

自從 快樂 聽到你的名字
他便走遍大街小巷找尋你
神甚至在上星期曽經幾次親自走到我的門前 ─
柔情問我 , 來取你的地址
渴求你心美麗熱情熱火！



P.S. The above is a translation into Chinese from Hafiz's poem, whose original is :
"Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.

And several times in the last week,
God Himself has even come to my door—
Asking me for your address!

Once I said,
‘God, I thought you know everything,
Why are you asking me where your lovers live?’

And the Beloved replied,
‘Indeed, Hafiz, I do know Everything—
But it is fun playing dumb once in a while,
And I love intimate chat
And the warmth of your heart’s fire.’

Maybe we should make this poem into a song—
I think it has potential!

How does this refrain sound,
For I know it is a Truth:

Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.
And several times in the last week,
God Himself has come to my door—
So sweetly asking for your address,
Wanting the beautiful warmth of your heart’s fire."

Intimacy with the Unknown, Christmas 2005

Hi Tameer,

Before I forget just want to write this to you.

As we had been to India, you can imagine how would an India Lady doctor can be and how value it may be. Last month, here in Oakland, one India lady doctor was missing when she finished her clinic practice and tried to attend a medical meeting over the other side in my area in Alameda. Some what Hong Kong and Kowloon, but much closer. Both the lady and her car were missing for more than one month. The day before yesterday, they found her car and body at the other end of the street we are living. The car was driven into a boat ramp at the end of the street and submerged into the sea.

A similar case happened one year ago. Two men were drowned at the same spot in a car. What justice is that a good man or lady deserves, with all the good act in one's life. Just a little mistake of turning a street corner and ended her life.

So I am looking forward to seeing the good side of it and be happy to be on my daily moment. We are much warmer here with 15 to 20 degree C. but raining. It is not much of any Christmas here. Bye
B




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Dear B,

They died out of metaphysical and mysterious reasons, I guess --- maybe for the sake of your awakening!

Here may I quote a piece of Light's writings: Thinking is dreaming while awake, dreaming is thinking while asleep.

We all are in a very deep sleep. We can scarcely stand aloof from dreaming while awake and thinking while asleep. We all are in a very very deep sleep, even war cannot disturb it.

It is very kind of you to take others' misfortunes into your own account, and it is a miracle that you happen to see things which even war cannot let you and us see them.

It's a warm strange X'mas, isn't it?

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Dear Light,

How are you? I'm learning to hear from your silence.

I'd like to share with you what I've emailed B.

Blessings showering to you from the sky!

Smiling,
Tameer

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Hello Tameer,
What a wonderful surprise to hear from you and to get a copy of your response to B. My heart has space for all of it! I was in Shanghai for three weeks in October. There I discovered that I am going back to our homeland to teach/share meditation and to imbibe myself in Chan and Dao. It's a happy discovery. Now we see how destiny unfolds together with intimacy with the unknown.
Meanwhile, to bring you and all the beloveds in Hong Kong holiday cheer and to wish you a blessed, prosperous, healthy and happy new year, I attach for you a painting I did to a poem by Hafiz last September during Creativity Week at the Miiamo Spa of the Enchantment Resort in Sedona , Arizona . The poem goes like this:

“Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.

And several times in the last week,
God Himself has even come to my door—
Asking me for your address!

Once I said,
‘God, I thought you know everything,
Why are you asking me where your lovers live?’

And the Beloved replied,
‘Indeed, Hafiz, I do know Everything—
But it is fun playing dumb once in a while,
And I love intimate chat
And the warmth of your heart’s fire.’

Maybe we should make this poem into a song—
I think it has potential!

How does this refrain sound,
For I know it is a Truth:

Ever since Happiness heard your name,
It has been running through the streets
Trying to find you.
And several times in the last week,
God Himself has come to my door—
So sweetly asking for your address,
Wanting the beautiful warmth of your heart’s fire.”

With very best wishes,
Light

摯友舒華照的關心 Jun21, 2006

生活比電影更戲劇化，近來看了幾部科幻電影是有關心念和時空的變換給人生帶來的因果變化，意味深遠。

任何微小變化都會引起不同方向的結果，生活的小變化可以變成生命的轉捩點，似乎你現在的生活將會有變化，把握覺知隨流而動。

有空可以到 S 辦公室上 (google talk) talk 一下，最好在下午一到四點或晚上八到十點通話。

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猜不到你在上面也看電影 , 是些甚麼電影呢 ? 我自己現在的人生劇本好像東唸幾句 , 西唸幾句 , 殘篇斷句 , 題旨不明 , 邊寫邊改 , 看前景: 柳暗花不明 , 水窮雲未起 ; 既不願跟別人 , 卻也做不成自己...

...托夢於烏有之邦 , 寫點文字解解聊 --

99年跟 R 一起去Pune, 有一次跟他傾偈 , 我說現代人苦於上不到天 , 下不到田 --
最近奕一點棋 , 稍涉象棋和圍棋 , 由棋理悟人生 --
覺知而隨流 , 把握契機為妙 , 如你所言 !
明天 (23日) 我可能會上 S 處(若不阻他) , 再傾 ! 祝生活美好 !
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-- To cope with a situation, one has to stand up again and fight if he falls down, as taught in Western martial arts, but now I fall down gracefully once in a while, open my heart to Existence, as in Eastern martial arts.

non-duality

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Healthy liver

Hi Tameers this took me about an hour to transcribe - this tiny little bit..! you can listen to the cd tho if you want more answers to the live r.

note: that even i who knows a bit about the aussie accent can barely pick up every word. This is where its important that the understanding is there so the words are not garbled or the meaning.

So it goes like this- a vistor asks Bob:
what do you think about healing?

Bob: See everything as whole and there can be healing.

As they say, that spirit, so called spirits, can never know matter. The spirit is whole and complete and how it expresses as matter,it might naturally become whole and complete.
And there are so called healers that have done that, used that principle, as thats all in the manifestation expressing anyway.

As you know its all that essence or spirit or whatever you like to call it , there is nothing that is not already perfect, is not already whole and complete, even if it's manifesting as brokenness, the thing is, don't try and fix the appearance- understand grasp and stay with the essence of what you are.

Then the appearance will change, might change, accordingly or it might not. whatever it does, it will be no big deal either way.

Because what you are is birthless and deathless anyway uncontaminated or untouched or added and that applies to any other manifestation in the universe also, whether they know it or see it or not.

Where are you taking this healing..Have a look at this so called healings-jesus who was sposed to be risen from the dead , where is he now?
...what was the point...you can heal or patch things up buts its only transient same as the rest of manifestation - any body that has ever been healed that might be around now,
what was the point... why patch things up,why patch up the appearance.

Essence was never born or ever died..
If you feel like doing it or its done, thats what happens also ... Its only an appearance only temporary thats seemingly healed or patched up
-the essence was never born or never died. It must only be the appeance that must only be healed or patched up any way. you remain.

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hi m,
yeah, bold manifestation through the incompleteness or brokenness is whole and healing..
the live-r is living, every act is whole, every moment is fresh and flowing...
thank you very much for your transcribing bob's sayings
i wouldn't come tomorrow, so see you somewhere some other time
^_^ t

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Jul27, 2007

>bold manifestation

what is bold mean...its good you dont come tomorrow as it will probably be no one arriving except the helper! No thing to say anymore anyway...except see a dvd and one can see them anywhere!

m

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bold ：not hesitating to accept the seemingly broken, impaired, crippled... hard-feeling, handicapped... ugly, tainted or tarnished... cold-hand, ill-health...tongue-tied.... disillusioned...hope-shattered, die-hard romantic... ghost-limbed... dwarfed-by-masters, incomplete, impotent, unenlightened......appearances;

or, on the other hand, arrogant, aggressive, god-toxicated...fundamentalist devil's advocate.... cold-blood, killer-mechanic-zombie.....illusioned.... of conspicuous consumption, overly beautified, deeply mystified........appearances

not hesitating to accept whatever we look like

t

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To M, Sep 2, 2007

hi m,

it's hot and a rather twisted ride to my place, where a stranger couldn't bear to see things, material, stuff scattered around like a degrading factory, a camel untied without allah's notice, a nowhere land for lonely books, an aborted action of misled great expectations, a matrix for savages and hermits...the days after the mid-autumn festival might be better, when order is born out of chaos, hopefully

the souls of books, not excepting surdham's and those of humans, need our prayers and blessings... the sky looks very blue, until people don't need it blue... love and music is romantic until people don't need it to be romantic, until the sound of silence is heard...

are you going to join the consciousness meetup in kwun tong the coming saturday?

t


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of course i dont mind coming by to your secret place...
m
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